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Old 10-25-2021, 03:19 PM   Topic Starter
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Time to panic about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs? Separating fact from fiction

Time to panic about Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs? Separating fact from fiction, who's to blame and what's next
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A wildly frustrating start to the Kansas City Chiefs' 2021 season turned ugly on Sunday. The defending AFC champs were outscored 27-0 in the first half by the Tennessee Titans. Mike Vrabel's team took its foot off the gas and didn't score in the second half, but the Chiefs could muster only a lone field goal in what was the worst offensive performance of the Patrick Mahomes era. If that wasn't bad enough, Mahomes was injured in the fourth quarter and had to leave the game. The only good news from the defeat is that Mahomes passed the concussion protocol.

At 3-4, the Chiefs have as many losses through seven weeks as they've had through any full season since Mahomes took over as their starter in 2018. With losses to the Bills, Chargers, Ravens and Titans, they have lost tiebreakers to many of the teams they would expect to compete against in the postseason. They're a tiebreaker away from last place in the AFC West, a division they were overwhelmingly expected to win for the sixth consecutive season. If this were a video game, the Chiefs would frantically be pressing the reset button.

Let's take a closer look at the Chiefs, and I'll do my best to break down what is factual and fictional about this start to the season. I'll begin with one of the biggest reasons they were manhandled in Week 7:

Fact: The Chiefs are turning the ball over way too often
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Fiction: The offense is a problem
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Fact: Teams are playing two-high coverages against the Chiefs far more frequently
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Fact: The Chiefs haven't been as explosive as in years past
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Fiction: The Chiefs fixed their offensive line over the offseason
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Fact: The defense has been a major, major problem
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Fiction: The defense is not one player or one change away
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Fact: Years of questionable drafts have left the Chiefs without great depth
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Fiction: The Chiefs' Super Bowl hopes are out the window
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Old 10-25-2021, 03:28 PM   #2
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Not panicking about Mahomes.

I am concerned about the talent level of the team.
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Old 10-25-2021, 03:33 PM   #4
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Fact: Brett Veach is a moron

Fiction: Brett Veach is responsible for Patrick Mahomes

Fact: John Dorsey would be an immediate upgrade over Brett Veach

Fiction: Brett Veach is responsible for us winning the Super Bowl

Fact: John Dorsey is more responsible for the Super Bowl victory than Brett Veach

Fiction: This team will win another Super Bowl with Brett Veach as GM
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Old 10-25-2021, 05:31 PM   #5
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Fact: Brett Veach is a moron

Fiction: Brett Veach is responsible for Patrick Mahomes

Fact: John Dorsey would be an immediate upgrade over Brett Veach

Fiction: Brett Veach is responsible for us winning the Super Bowl

Fact: John Dorsey is more responsible for the Super Bowl victory than Brett Veach

Fiction: This team will win another Super Bowl with Brett Veach as GM
Fact: We wouldn’t have a SB without Brett Veach
Fact: We wouldn’t have Patrick Mahomes without Brett Veach
Fact: You’re talking out of the side of your ass
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Old 10-25-2021, 05:32 PM   #6
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Fact: We wouldn’t have a SB without Brett Veach
Fact: We wouldn’t have Patrick Mahomes without Brett Veac
Fact: You’re talking out of the side of your ass


Please tell me you don't believe this nonsense.
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Old 10-25-2021, 06:16 PM   #7
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Please tell me you don't believe this nonsense.
We have Sb with him. We didn’t win anything with Dorsey. Please tell me who discovered Mahomes if it wasn’t Veach.
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Old 10-25-2021, 06:54 PM   #8
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We have Sb with him. We didn’t win anything with Dorsey. Please tell me who discovered Mahomes if it wasn’t Veach.
Nobody "discovered" Mahomes. JFC.

First round quarterbacks aren't "discovered". They're known commodities that every team in the league does some level of diligence on.

And we won the Super Bowl on the back of Mahomes, Kelce, Hill and Chris Jones.

Players who John Dorsey is responsible for. But keep giving Veach credit for winning with Dorsey's players.
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Old 10-25-2021, 06:24 PM   #9
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Please tell me you don't believe this nonsense.
Andy Reid said it himself Veach kept telling him he needs to watch this kid from Tech. So yeah, Veach brought us mahomes. Dorsey was in charge to make the final.
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Old 10-25-2021, 03:33 PM   #10
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I'll panic if we don't make the playoffs.
By then, it will all be too late.
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To me the problems summed up

1) The offensive line is worse then when Schwartz Fischer were healthy in 2019 and 2020. Not sure why one would look at the make shift 3rd string line that played the super bowl and say we improved upon that line.

Teams are getting way too consistent pressure for only rushing 4.

2) The defense has been pathetic.

3) The schedule has been brutal.

4) Forcing throws too much.

Still think we can get to 10/11 wins playoffs and if the dee comes around some who knows. But clearly going to be a underdog in 2-3 playoff games if we do make the playoffs.
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To me the problems summed up

1) The offensive line is worse then when Schwartz Fischer were healthy in 2019 and 2020. Not sure why one would look at the make shift 3rd string line that played the super bowl and say we improved upon that line.

Teams are getting way too consistent pressure for only rushing 4.

2) The defense has been pathetic.

3) The schedule has been brutal.

4) Forcing throws too much.

Still think we can get to 10/11 wins playoffs and if the dee comes around some who knows. But clearly going to be a underdog in 2-3 playoff games if we do make the playoffs.
That is because out front four suck and the online does not get proper practice against NFL defensive players.

The fact they handly get beat each week by a four man shows that.

Then on the flip, we get decimated by backup o lineman. Even while blitzing.
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Old 10-25-2021, 03:39 PM   #15
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This is great. It consolidates several thread discussions into one. Thanks for posting!
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