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Old 01-02-2018, 05:51 PM  
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Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
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Matheny fired 07/14/2018




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Old 12-20-2018, 10:55 PM   #4456
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So its probably 5. Because Cusumano is a disphit.

Miller will be getting the Cecil/Holland treatment while struggling to break 93 by June. This team is ****ing stupid.
But he was a postseason hero in 2016!

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Old 12-20-2018, 11:00 PM   #4457
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:03 PM   #4458
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That’s not what Miller did, that’s how the Cardinals staff performed last year.

Granted, Miller wasn’t all that much better than that...
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:04 PM   #4459
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With a very expensive Brett Cecil as part of that crew.

Andrew Miller is just going to be another version of him. Andrew Miller is the kind of guy you build, not buy. But hey - POWDER BLUES!!!

Yeah, I'm gonna have a fantasy baseball season. Gonna watch way more other teams than the Cardinals this year. Im done with this braindead leadership.
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Another reliever coming off a bad season to presumably decent sized money. Nice work keeping the streak alive on those for 3rd concecutive year.
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Another reliever coming off a bad season to presumably decent sized money. Nice work keeping the streak alive on those for 3rd concecutive year.
34 year old relievers are a hot commodity in baseball?
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Old 12-21-2018, 10:14 AM   #4462
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I know you guys are down on it, but I think there’s a very good chance the Cardinals just bought a few years of elite relief pitching at a decent discount.

Miller was his usual self until hitting the DL in May and was never right afterwards, as he tried to gut through being less than healthy and struggled.

Compared to the pricetag in prospects on a guy like Will Smith, just spending some dollars on Miller seems like a better calculated risk to me. He didn’t get a franchise tag, as far as I know, so it’s just a matter of money.
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I wanted Miller or Britton. But then, there’s also no point for us paying for anybody at all.
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I know you guys are down on it, but I think there’s a very good chance the Cardinals just bought a few years of elite relief pitching at a decent discount.

Miller was his usual self until hitting the DL in May and was never right afterwards, as he tried to gut through being less than healthy and struggled.

Compared to the pricetag in prospects on a guy like Will Smith, just spending some dollars on Miller seems like a better calculated risk to me. He didn’t get a franchise tag, as far as I know, so it’s just a matter of money.
But how many times have we heard that story and the bottom line is that the guy simply never rebounds.

It's especially true with older pitchers and the track record of shoulder injuries in this league is simply AWFUL.

Fortunately his knee issues were with his landing leg and not his drive leg, but there's still a chance that they resurface and if so they'll absolutely create problems. Tendinitis is a bitch and I see no reason to believe it will just be gone and done with at any point for the rest of his career.

I mean the only thing that could make his injury history worse is if you threw a back injury on top of it. Knee and shoulder issues for a pitcher are just the worst for me. You take away a pitcher's lower half and then have an issue with the orneriest joint in God's creation...ugh, that's just a terrible combination.
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I wanted Miller or Britton. But then, there’s also no point for us paying for anybody at all.
I expect he'll be available to anyone willing to take on his entire contract by August.

I'd have FAR preferred to make a move for Mike Minor. It's not even a close question.
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2/$25 mill with a vesting option for a third is what I’m finding. Option is for $12 mil and kicks in at 110 appearances. Full no trade clause
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I'd have FAR preferred to make a move for Mike Minor. It's not even a close question.

Why on Minor? He’s owed a few million less bucks a year, but has never been as good as Miller at his best and has an even more troubling injury history, including ongoing shoulder issues.

And he would come with a prospect cost (though considering what Texas just accepted in return for Profar, maybe not that bad).

I get/see your reservations but think there’s a lot more upside here than you’re seeing at the moment.

And I get that. Mozeliak’s FA signing record has been poor the past few years. We give Moore a hard time for the Kennedy contract (yes, even me now), and Mozeliak has 3 that bad in the past 2 FA cycles in Fowler, Holland, and Cecil.
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I'd have FAR preferred to make a move for Mike Minor. It's not even a close question.
I’d like that too. Of course we will win 64 or 66 so there’s really no pt
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