Move Chris Jones to DE and Trade Next Year

[petegz28]

Jones needs to be at DE. He is not a 3 down back inside. He is an amazing pass rusher, even though he was quiet tonight, he is a great pass rusher. But that's about all he seems to be able to do. He gets blown off the ball and\or ****s up his run assignments.

Either way, I can't see paying him next season when we need LB's badly. Tag and trade him. Unless he just becomes Donald at DE and then even still.

[dannybcaitlyn]

Man, I watched a Cowgirls game the other day and I saw a play where the Running back got to the secondary and I saw a blurrr of a figure come from behind, like a Great White come up from underneath a seal launching for the kill with speed and power loll, no lie!! Yup, It was Demarcus Lawrence making a play! Not only does this guy get sacks but plays hard all the way to the whistle. He deserved his pay day. I love Jones but man once the play gets by him he ****ing Loafs or trots after who ever the ball carrier is and I see it every game! Not sure if it’s a business decision by him now to keep from getting hurt or just laziness. I still like to sign him but wouldn’t be pissed if we tagged and traded.

[Aspengc8]

I can't see him going anywhere. The ability to generate a consistent 4 man rush is a defensive coordinators wet dream. A healthy Jones & Clark will help the secondary tremendously.

[Buckweath]

Chris Jones is an All-Pro DT but keep telling us he's not a 3-down DT... so silly

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Buckweath

Chris Jones is an All-Pro DT but keep telling us he's not a 3-down DT... so silly

He's not. When he plays inside on running downs we get gashed.

[Flying High D]

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

Man, I watched a Cowgirls game the other day and I saw a play where the Running back got to the secondary and I saw a blurrr of figure come from behind, like a Great coming up from underneath a seal launching for the kill with speed and power loll, no lie!! Yup, It was Demarcus Lawrence making a play! Not only does this guy get sacks but plays hard all the way to the whistle. He deserved his pay day. I love Jones but man once the play gets by him he ****ing Loafs or trots after who ever the ball carrier is and I see it every game! Not sure if it’s a business decision by him now to keep from getting hurt or just laziness. I still like to sign him but wouldn’t be pissed if we tagged and traded.

Probably doesn’t want his schlong to flop out and hurt someone.

[kcclone]

Originally Posted by petegz28

He's not. When he plays inside on running downs we get gashed.

Yeah, right now we play better team defense with Pennel/Nnadi/Saunders rotating inside, and Jones on the end.


And it's not even close. When you can take away the run and make the other team one dimensional, you at least have a chance at getting stops.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Unfortunately Wilson gets sealed here by the RT. Ideally you want to see Jones shuffle down and put a shoulder into the pulling TE. #JacobsEyeInTheSky #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/Lj7aALnljW

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) November 20, 2019

Right here is why he’s not a DE

[old_geezer]

Don't want to get in the middle of the whole tag and/or trade argument but, damn, with Pennel in the middle plugging the run our whole defense seems to play much better.

[Skyy God]

Donald has 1.5-2x the sacks, solo tackles, and forced fumbles as Jones.

Love Jones, but I'm not paying 90% of the salary for 60% of the production, especially since he's still a questionable fit in a 4-3.

[JakeF]

Originally Posted by Showtime

Unfortunately Wilson gets sealed here by the RT. Ideally you want to see Jones shuffle down and put a shoulder into the pulling TE. #JacobsEyeInTheSky #Chiefs pic.twitter.com/Lj7aALnljW

— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) November 20, 2019

Right here is why he’s not a DE

He has a lot to learn about playing DE. Can he learn it?

He also doesn't have a complete game at DT. He only seems to care about sacks or TFL.


Are we really going to give a 100 million dollar contract to a player who isn't a complete player at any defensive position?

[ChiefaRoo]

Tag and trade. He’s not a franchise D player.

[chiefzilla1501]

I still wonder if our opinion of Chris jones is influenced by the fact that we've played an EXTREMELY run heavy schedule. I would think we'd use him very differently vs a new England than we would Baltimore.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I still wonder if our opinion of Chris jones is influenced by the fact that we've played an EXTREMELY run heavy schedule. I would think we'd use him very differently vs a new England than we would Baltimore.

We've sucked against the run for quite a while. There are 2 people on this DL from last year, Jones and Nadi We've seen Nadi stuff the middle game after game. We've seen Jones either get blown off the ball or otherwise not be able to play run effectively game after game. We've seen Pennel play the run better than Jones for a couple of games.

Jones is a pass rusher and nothing more. That seems to be the sad reality of it. We need run stuffers in interior of the DL. We can't have a hole at DT and shit LB's.

If we had better LB's maybe we could mask Jones' suckage in the run game.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We've sucked against the run for quite a while. There are 2 people on this DL from last year, Jones and Nadi We've seen Nadi stuff the middle game after game. We've seen Jones either get blown off the ball or otherwise not be able to play run effectively game after game. We've seen Pennel play the run better than Jones for a couple of games.

Jones is a pass rusher and nothing more. That seems to be the sad reality of it. We need run stuffers in interior of the DL. We can't have a hole at DT and shit LB's.

If we had better LB's maybe we could mask Jones' suckage in the run game.

Sure, but we'll come across teams who want to spread us out. And who don't run well between the tackles. We'll probably want speed and interior line that can push the pocket in. I love jones flexibility to play either role. Pennel... I'm not sure if he'll be nearly as effective and I suspect that's why he was cut for so long.

And don't get me wrong... We absolutely need Pennel.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

Tag and trade. He’s not a franchise D player.

This.