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Old 03-27-2023, 08:51 AM  
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Lamar Jackson has asked Baltimore to trade him

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Old 03-27-2023, 09:29 AM   #31
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I'd take Lamar if the Ravens include their 1st and 2nd rd. pick for this year, but I am not giving them anything in return.
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:29 AM   #32
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:30 AM   #33
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I think they removed the ability to poison pill a contract in the last CBA iirc.
They did, but only the strict sort of "Chad Hutchinson" contract the Vikings pulled several years back.

You just can't offer a deal that has terms that are different for the 'losing' team than they would be for the 'winning' team. The Vikes offered Hutchinson a deal where his contract would guarantee if he wasn't the highest paid player on the team and the Seahawks had Walter Jones making $7 million. So if the Seahawks matched, the entire deal ended up guaranteed.

Whereas on the Vikings that wouldn't have been an issue.

That's the kind of deal that is barred. You can still make frontloaded deals or deals with onerous enough terms to make it difficult for a team to match.
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:33 AM   #34
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They did, but only the strict sort of "Chad Hutchinson" contract the Vikings pulled several years back.

You just can't offer a deal that has terms that are different for the 'losing' team than they would be for the 'winning' team. The Vikes offered Hutchinson a deal where his contract would guarantee if he wasn't the highest paid player on the team and the Seahawks had Walter Jones making $7 million. So if the Seahawks matched, the entire deal ended up guaranteed.

Whereas on the Vikings that wouldn't have been an issue.

That's the kind of deal that is barred. You can still make frontloaded deals or deals with onerous enough terms to make it difficult for a team to match.
I thought there was also a contract poison pill included about playing a certain number of games in one state that would make the contract guaranteed.
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:36 AM   #36
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:36 AM   #37
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We ****ing get it. He doesn't tweet in perfect English. A good number of athletes don't. Who gives a ****...
Dude's a dim bulb.

The grammar isn't the disease - it's a symptom.

It's interesting for 2 reasons - A) He's a quarterback and that requires some processing power that I'm not sure he's demonstrated and B) He's representing himself in a hundred million dollar business deal.

Oh, and it's funny. The guy's dumb as a hammer.
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Dude's a dim bulb.

The grammar isn't the disease - it's a symptom.

It's interesting for 2 reasons - A) He's a quarterback and that requires some processing power that I'm not sure he's demonstrated and B) He's representing himself in a hundred million dollar business deal.

Oh, and it's funny. The guy's dumb as a hammer.
I get it. It just gets annoying as **** when it's hammered on over and over. It's about as funny as the whole belize thing that everyone wants to include in every ****ing thread ever created.
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:38 AM   #39
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I thought there was also a contract poison pill included about playing a certain number of games in one state that would make the contract guaranteed.
Sure, but that's just another example.

If there are terms in the deal that make the contract obligations fundamentally different for a 'matching' team than it does the team that offered it, it's a poison pill.

They really haven't happened all that often and aren't strictly necessary.
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You could probably use the compensation you get for Lamar to move up to 6 and get Anthony Richardson so the Raiders don’t.

And I’d bet the Lions would take that deal
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It would never happen but I'd happily throw the Ravens a pick for Bateman right now.
Yup - absolutely.

But he has injury issues of his own.
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I get it. It just gets annoying as **** when it's hammered on over and over. It's about as funny as the whole belize thing that everyone wants to include in every ****ing thread ever created.
It's just hard to take him seriously. Like, do you really think a guy with a shaky grasp of the English language is going to understand the nuances of non-exclusive franchise tags vis-à-vis trades and how that might impact the teams involved? I'm sure major agencies employ "a guy" whose entire job is to understand the intricacies of stuff like that.

It's not that I expect Lamar to be able to understand it. It's that he doesn't even realize how important it is that he DOES understand it (or someone on his side does).

He just seems like he's got a lot of Dunning-Kruger effect going on and he's so lost in all of this that he doesn't even realize how lost he is.
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It's just hard to take him seriously. Like, do you really think a guy with a shaky grasp of the English language is going to understand the nuances of non-exclusive franchise tags vis-à-vis trades and how that might impact the teams involved? I'm sure major agencies employ "a guy" whose entire job is to understand the intricacies of stuff like that.

It's not that I expect Lamar to be able to understand it. It's that he doesn't even realize how important it is that he DOES understand it (or someone on his side does).

He just seems like he's got a lot of Dunning-Kruger effect going on and he's so lost in all of this that he doesn't even realize how lost he is.
Dude isn't that bright for a number of reasons...not having an agent being the paramount one.
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Lol. I don't think that anyone is dumb enough to trade for him and his unrealistic demands. But if anyone is that dumb, it would be great to see it be the Colts. It's nice to see those scumbags be bad. It'll be even better to see them stick with a bad quarterback contract for a declining running back that throws the ball.
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There's no way I'm giving up the 4th pick for Lamar if I'm the Colts. It's going to take multiple picks...so give up your 2023 2nd rounder, 2024 1st and 2025 1st.
The problem is it is going to take multiple picks and your still going to have to over pay him to play for you. Not a good combination.
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