*.* 2013 General Fitness Thread *.*

[penguinz]

Welcome to 2013! Now get your ass in top physical condition!

**From the 2012 Thread**

If you want to get back into lifting, or need a new lifting routine, START HERE:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wi...inner_Programs

If you have questions about the SS programs, look here:

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ

Keep in mind that you're a novice lifter for a longer period of time than you think you are. Novice lifting can last anywhere from a few months to a year or two, depending on how hard you hit the weights and where you started.

Once you've reached the point where you don't make regular progress on the SS program, you are ready to move on to the intermediate stage, which can last you for a good number of years. Find it HERE:

http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

If you're a very advanced lifter (many, many years of CONSISTENT weight training), then there are lot of programs out there, and which one you pick is simply a matter of preference. If you're really that advanced, you should know what works for you and what doesn't by this point.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by tooge

As far as aging, yes, muscle WILL turn to fat as you age no matter what you do.

Your showing your lack of knowledge and just going by what you have experienced. No where can you find that muscle turns to fat. The body simply does not have any physiological response where this happens. NEVER. I have no idea why so many people think that but is simply is not true. Muscles can atrophy but simply do not turn to fat.

But yes, increase in bodyfat as we age due to physiological changes in decreased testosterone and estrogen increases. Doesn't mean it can't be avoided, but I agree is much harder as we age.

Your knees also aren't made to take the pounding of running and the triathlons that you said you did. Maybe we should just all avoid exercise?

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by tooge

I should hope your joints ate good. You are only 27. Human joints aren't designed to carry loads in excess if ideal body weight. They also aren't designed to torque against the heavy loads weight lifting applies.

As far as aging, yes, muscle WILL turn to fat as you age no matter what you do. You will also develop fat deposit ratios in different body areas than when you are young. Again, nothing you can do about it. Then there's gravity. It'll play a roll also. You can cite all the studies you can find, but if you are huge when you are 27, you will struggle to not look flabby and have manboobs at 50. It's a combination if things. I didn't say it can't be done, but in all likelihood, you won't have the joint health, metabolism, or time, to workout intensely enough to maintain size without becoming flabby.

Completely untrue.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by tooge

I didn't say it can't be done, but in all likelihood, you won't have the joint health, metabolism, or time, to workout intensely enough to maintain size without becoming flabby.

Oh and I currently workout 5 hours a week lifting weights. I bet I can keep that up.

You body doesn't give up muscle mass unless the stimulus is removed. And I don't plan to give up lifting. If my body starts to change, joints hurt, etc, you adjust your training. It's called instinctive training. Anyone who is serious into working out realizes there is more than one way to skin a cat. Many lifters start to decrease the percentages of their working sets and can continue to maintain their muscle mass with less stress on the joints as they age. I've seen it.

And the metabolism issues has been discussed to death. Yea your metabolisms slows down with aging, so when I am 40 years old I won't eat as much to maintain my size and maybe add in some cardio to increase my caloric expenditure. Your experience simply doesn't have to be the case. I've met plenty that don't "turn flabby" as they age.

You seem like a nice guy and usually good poster, but the "information" you are posting is simply not true.

[Simply Red]

no what happens is people grow old and blame age for the lack of results from zero/lost effort. See the 1000 year old gold pro on EPSNn tonight?

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Oh and I currently workout 5 hours a week lifting weights. I bet I can keep that up.

that's great lewdog.

[tooge]

Lewdog, I hope u are correct. I haven't turned flabby at all. In fact, I'm 5'10 and 188 lbs with a 32 inch waist. Been this way for years, and I'm one of the more muscular lt fit guys I know at my age. My point is that it is much much more difficult to maintain that mass after 35 or so. Muscles don't "turn to fat" per say, but muscle mass wants to decrease as you age and be replaced by fat/flab as metabolism slows. Trust me, my knees are paying for the triathlons tears ago and I've had three shoulder surgeries, so heavy lifting is out for me anyhow. I guess I was trying to point out that a leaner/smaller build will be easier to maintain as you age then a large bulky build if you still want to look good. If you think you will have that time, then good on you! I've got two kids, a busy job, and community things I do. Now, most of my work louts are plyimeyric and core in nature. I wasn't trying to be argumentative, just giving you the viewpoint of someone that's 20 years older and looked alot like you 20 years ago. I'd train differently if I could go back.

I know what it takes to build what you've built, and for that, good job. Again, just one view point to consider.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by tooge

Lewdog, I hope u are correct. I haven't turned flabby at all. In fact, I'm 5'10 and 188 lbs with a 32 inch waist. Been this way for years, and I'm one of the more muscular lt fit guys I know at my age. My point is that it is much much more difficult to maintain that mass after 35 or so. Muscles don't "turn to fat" per say, but muscle mass wants to decrease as you age and be replaced by fat/flab as metabolism slows. Trust me, my knees are paying for the triathlons tears ago and I've had three shoulder surgeries, so heavy lifting is out for me anyhow. I guess I was trying to point out that a leaner/smaller build will be easier to maintain as you age then a large bulky build if you still want to look good. If you think you will have that time, then good on you! I've got two kids, a busy job, and community things I do. Now, most of my work louts are plyimeyric and core in nature. I wasn't trying to be argumentative, just giving you the viewpoint of someone that's 20 years older and looked alot like you 20 years ago. I'd train differently if I could go back.

I know what it takes to build what you've built, and for that, good job. Again, just one view point to consider.

No problem and as I stated, when the time comes, I will adjust my training as needed. If my body changes in the muscle department, fine. Doesn't mean I will base my training now, around what might happen later. I like to lift heavy more of the enjoyment of pushing numbers...the muscle mass was more a side effect from how I like to train anyway.

I used to be bigger anyway and this year I actually cut about 15lbs because I was feeling a bit sluggish and out of shape. I still don't consider myself very big and maybe the picture is a bit misleading.

And given your stats, you sound like you have it dialed in! Weird that you have been able to keep your physique in check but for some reason think you can't maintain a decent physique as you age?

[Silock]

I'm 32 1/2. I plan on looking like this at 40.

[Silock]

Day 31:




Workout:

I wasn't planning on doing ANYTHING today, but I got called in to sub for a friend's soccer team. I told him I'd come and sub, but I didn't want to play a lot. So, naturally, they didn't have any other subs, so I played the whole game. Yay. I was tired. WAY too tired. Ugh.

Nutrition:

Iso Sensation + MCT oil shake
Grilled chicken
Grilled chicken salad
Coffee

Totals: 1,205 cals, 21g carbs, 27g fat, 225g protein

[KCrockaholic]

I hate your hair. Lucky bastard.

[ChiefGator]

Originally Posted by Silock

. . . Well . . . do you?

BRO?

Nah, fitness for me is more about cardio. Just started back on a regime where I walk at least 45 minutes a day. Not a real fan of jogging/running since I had knee damage as a kid.

Probably switch up to more core, strength building after two more weeks of cardio though.

[Silock]

What about biking? I love it, but I'm too poor to afford a bike that I will only rarely use.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by lewdog

No problem and as I stated, when the time comes, I will adjust my training as needed. If my body changes in the muscle department, fine. Doesn't mean I will base my training now, around what might happen later. I like to lift heavy more of the enjoyment of pushing numbers...the muscle mass was more a side effect from how I like to train anyway.

I used to be bigger anyway and this year I actually cut about 15lbs because I was feeling a bit sluggish and out of shape. I still don't consider myself very big and maybe the picture is a bit misleading.

And given your stats, you sound like you have it dialed in! Weird that you have been able to keep your physique in check but for some reason think you can't maintain a decent physique as you age?

Oh, you can, its just a hell of a lot harder. My diet now is about 90 percent vegan with salmon thrown in about 3 times a week and protein shakes to help with protein.

[tooge]

biking is awesome. I bought a Specialized hybrid bike about 20 years ago and still use it today. Waaaay easier on the knees. Really tones up the calves too.

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Anyone who is serious into working out realizes there is more than one way to skin a cat.

Welcome to crossfit, baby!!!!