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Old 07-21-2022, 10:34 AM  
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Old 07-28-2022, 08:44 PM   #136
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Tbh there’s July 28th me and there’s July 24th me on my opinion of kyler murray.

July 24th me would say after hearing his response to the clause in his contract and hearing the team has removed it would say to me it was clearly blown out of proportion, the guy is a good player and obviously puts the time in, his employer clearly just wants to make sure he’s fully invested each week because of the potential they see in him and the rest of the league. He’s a game changer and if he study’s every week like a Brady, he can really elevate his game, or he can just be Michael Vick 2.0.

July 28th me would say yeah dudes immature, dick, and it was probably in the teams best interest to make sure he stays the course as he clearly thinks his shit don’t stink. That’s my newest take after diving more into this story than the casual fan watching his highlights
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Old 07-28-2022, 08:51 PM   #137
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Some people have all the talent in the world and just aren't leaders.

Kyler is one of them. Dude just isn't likeable. Should make for an interesting 5 years.
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Old 07-28-2022, 09:06 PM   #138
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"After seeing the distraction it created, we removed the addendum from the contract," the Cardinals said in a team statement, obtained by NFL Network's Mike Garafolo and Rapoport. "It was clearly perceived in ways that were never intended. Our confidence in Kyler Murray is as high as it's ever been and nothing demonstrates our belief in his ability to lead this team more than the commitment reflected in this contract."
Okay, Cardinals. How the hell did you think it was going to be perceived?

If the public got the wrong message, then please set the record straight on what its true intended purpose was. Don't just say, "It's not what you think. Whatever. Just ****ing forget it."

Apparently Bidwell was the driving force for putting the clause in the contract. No surprise there.

Murray's refusal to answer this morning why he signed the contract with that clause in the first place is the other mystery behind this. Like, I understand you can just answer that question with "stupidity" and be done with it all, but I want to know how much and who the main culprits of stupidity were.
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Old 07-28-2022, 09:45 PM   #139
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I love how Murray said the homework clause was disrespectful and a joke. Lmao. The guy didn't have one problem signing the ****ing contract though and yeah it definitely made him a huge joke.
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:02 PM   #140
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:13 PM   #141
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I love how Murray said the homework clause was disrespectful and a joke. Lmao. The guy didn't have one problem signing the ****ing contract though and yeah it definitely made him a huge joke.
Totally agree. Let someone else make the Week 1 game thread though just to be safe.
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Old 07-29-2022, 12:32 AM   #142
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Tbh there’s July 28th me and there’s July 24th me on my opinion of kyler murray.

July 24th me would say after hearing his response to the clause in his contract and hearing the team has removed it would say to me it was clearly blown out of proportion, the guy is a good player and obviously puts the time in, his employer clearly just wants to make sure he’s fully invested each week because of the potential they see in him and the rest of the league. He’s a game changer and if he study’s every week like a Brady, he can really elevate his game, or he can just be Michael Vick 2.0.

July 28th me would say yeah dudes immature, dick, and it was probably in the teams best interest to make sure he stays the course as he clearly thinks his shit don’t stink. That’s my newest take after diving more into this story than the casual fan watching his highlights
This is ****ing subliterate.
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Old 07-29-2022, 05:29 AM   #144
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Okay, Cardinals. How the hell did you think it was going to be perceived?

If the public got the wrong message, then please set the record straight on what its true intended purpose was. Don't just say, "It's not what you think. Whatever. Just ****ing forget it."

Apparently Bidwell was the driving force for putting the clause in the contract. No surprise there.

Murray's refusal to answer this morning why he signed the contract with that clause in the first place is the other mystery behind this. Like, I understand you can just answer that question with "stupidity" and be done with it all, but I want to know how much and who the main culprits of stupidity were.
I negotiate on a much smaller scale than NFL QB salaries.

But generally, if a contract meets most of your key goals, you and the client let slide some clauses you don’t like and wouldn’t have included.
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Old 07-29-2022, 07:32 AM   #146
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But generally, if a contract meets most of your key goals, you and the client let slide some clauses you don’t like and wouldn’t have included.
I can see that, but I hope Kyler knew what kind of shitstorm this would cause. If he just didn't care about what the media said, then I understand it.

The Bidwells are a trash tier NFL ownership. They're historically as bad as Snyder and the Ford family. That's the bottom line.
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I love how Murray said the homework clause was disrespectful and a joke. Lmao. The guy didn't have one problem signing the ****ing contract though and yeah it definitely made him a huge joke.
He didn’t say the clause was disrespectful or a joke he said it was disrespectful the reaction to the clause that people had thinking he doesn’t need to put in the work each week as if that’s why the clause was in there. he said it’s disrespectful to him and other quarterbacks in the league because of how difficult the position is.

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Old 07-29-2022, 09:37 AM   #148
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Does leadership not even matter anymore?

You’ve got Lamar pouting on the sidelines when things go sour. Kyler spends halftime chatting calling his girlfriend and playing video games, then pulls himself… all during a PLAYOFF game. And yet anyone would have the audacity to put him in even the same ballpark as mahomes? A guy who turned tyreeks head around in the super bowl and who threw upside down passes in a meaningless super bowl drive after getting pummeled into the ground.

But yeah, this stuff is wild. If anything it seems to confirm rumors that dude wasn’t even engaged in his own playoff game.
It does.

In these cases, the hope is the QB's talent can overcome their lack of leadership. Because both Baltimore and Arizona have playoff caliber teams. And the alternative to paying Murray, a good but not elite QB, is most likely ending up the 2021 Colts. A great roster wasted by 20th ranked QB play. That is the primeval fear. Yeah, having to pay the 11th ranked QB a mammoth sum isn't ideal but the likely outcome of switching QBs is irrelevance. And that gets a GM fired more quickly than a string of 9-8/10-7 seasons.

Their GM has been on the job since 2013. He drafted Rosen and Murray. I am sure the Rosen miss has scarred him.
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Does leadership not even matter anymore?
I think it's overrated.

Maybe I'm different, but I've never been motivated by some other dude pumping me up or any of that jazz.

Just do your ****ing job and I'll do mine. Save all that other shit.
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I think it's overrated.

Maybe I'm different, but I've never been motivated by some other dude pumping me up or any of that jazz.

Just do your ****ing job and I'll do mine. Save all that other shit.
I think there's such a fine line in pro sports, but would maybe argue it's the opposite a lot of times... not necessarily motivating/pumping up teammates, but instances where you need to focus and follow the clichés of "do what got you here".

We can see that in that Texans playoff game where the Chiefs were killing themselves and needed to settle the **** down, or when you're down in the SB and don't want someone to try getting 11 points in one play and making things worse with a turnover.

And these guys also play hundreds of games over the course of a career, so sometimes they probably do need to be told to get their heads out of their ass, too.

The other side of it is not just a lack of leadership, but hurting your team... a guy who not only isn't leading his team, but is the one pressing too much when the team is down, whining to the refs and coaches instead of focusing on the next drive, etc. Some players may not need Braveheart speeches, but nobody needs a shit teammate at the most important position in sports, either.
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