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big nasty kcnut · 03:24 PM

So any news post here on release, signing and practice squad adds
Released
Blanton, Kendall (TE - Missouri)
Bush, Deon (DB - Miami)
Reiter, Austin (C - South Florida)
Shelton, Danny (NT - Washington)
Waived
Bootle, Dicaprio (DB - Nebraska)
Boye-Doe, Ekow (DB - Kansas State)
Buechele, Shane (QB - Southern Methodist)
Bushman, Matt (TE - Brigham Young)
Christiansen, Cole (LB - Army)
Cook, Anthony (DB - Texas)
Ealy, Jerrion (RB - Mississippi)
Fryfogle, Ty (WR - Indiana)
Gathings, Izaiah (WR - Middle Tennessee)
Godrick, Chukwuebuka (T - No College)
Green, Juwan (WR - Albany, N.Y.)
Gutierrez, Sebastian (T - Minot State)
Hailassie, Kahlef (DB - Western Kentucky)
Hardy, Anderson (T - Appalachian State)
Hoskins, Phil (DT - Kentucky)
Jackson, Lamar (DB - Nebraska)
Jones, Truman (DE - Harvard)
Kaindoh, Joshua (DE - Florida State)
Kinnard, Darian (T - Kentucky)
Lowe, Duron (DB - Liberty)
Norman, Isaiah (DB - Marshall)
Oladokun, Chris (QB - South Dakota State)
Perine, La'Mical (RB - Florida)
Powell, Cornell (WR - Clemson)
Prince, Deneric (RB - Tulsa)
Scott, Ty (WR - Missouri State)
Taylor, Reese (DB - Purdue)
Williams, Chris (DT - Wagner)
Wise, Daniel (DE - Kansas)
Waived, Injured
Carvin, Jerome (G - Tennessee)
Fatukasi, Olakunle (LB - Rutgers)
Remigio, Nikko (WR - Fresno State)
Traded to Panthers
Smith-Marsette, Ihmir (WR - Iowa)
Reserve/Did Not Report
Jones, Chris (DT - Mississippi State)
Acquired Via Trade with Raiders
Farrell, Neil (DT - Louisiana State)

BleedingRed · 08-28-2023, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Clyde with a perfectly blocked play = three to seven yards.

That's the high side. He's slow, has heavy feet, lacks vision.

He moves his feet way to much in the hole for me.

North and South bud, NORTH AND SOUTH

BigBeauford · 08-28-2023, 07:27 AM

God, I thought we would be able to have a season where we weren't arguing over the merits of CEH's mediocrity again. Getting Alex Smith nam' flashbacks again.

**ptlyon** · 08-28-2023, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

He moves his feet way to much in the hole for me.

North and South bud, NORTH AND SOUTH

Ya but to us watching on TV he's either going west to east or east to west

BleedingRed · 08-28-2023, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford

God, I thought we would be able to have a season where we weren't arguing over the merits of CEH's mediocrity again. Getting Alex Smith nam' flashbacks again.

Hes going to annoy the **** out of us all season when he gets carries. And I'm sure he will be effective. But its those twice every ten plays running into the back of our Olinemen that will do it.

Also Ross is a lock for the 53 right?

DJ's left nut · 08-28-2023, 07:49 AM

The Clyde issue is guaranteed money.

If you cut Clyde, you still take his $2 million or so in guarantees on your cap but then someone replaces him that costs in the $700K range on the top 51. So cutting Clyde is cap negative.

With as tight as we are on the cap, it just may not be something they're willing to do for a nominal upgrade on the 3rd or even 4th RB.

If they can't get him traded for a ham sandwich, I think they'll keep him. If they had maybe $5 million in cap space I could see MEH and Watson getting cut. But as it stands, if they have to pay those guys, they also need to have them as a couple of placeholders on the top 51. Otherwise it's just dead money hits AND the 2 salaries for the guys that shell game into the top 51 in their absence.

O.city · 08-28-2023, 07:52 AM

They haven't done anything to get any capspace, so either a move is coming or they are still optimistic on Jones.

Those are the only options right?

FlaChief58 · 08-28-2023, 07:59 AM

Have we cut any pieces of shit yet?

DJ's left nut · 08-28-2023, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

They haven't done anything to get any capspace, so either a move is coming or they are still optimistic on Jones.

Those are the only options right?

Or they just don't intend to take on any dead money.

I mean technically Kendall Blanton has a $1 million cap hit but it's not guaranteed and he has no signing bonus. So there's a million bucks cleared without dead money.

Deon Bush could get you another million. Blake Bell, Matt Dickerson, Austin Reiter; that's $3.3 million or so. Now I believe those guys have VSB so they make about a million but they have cap hits in the $900K range. But they could be backfilled by guys like Bushman, Hailassie, Truman Jones and Mike Caliendo and you'd gain about $200K per guy once the top 51 settles out. Blanton and Bush don't have VSBs so you're talking about 300K per cut there.

So with some of these moves that could be made, we could sneak out another $1 million or so and find a little more breathing room.

It's just such a lean cap. I don't know that folks understand how well constructed our cap sheet is at the moment. The problem is that we have a $28 million hit throwing a ****ing temper tantrum at the moment.

But yeah, that's not a problem really. It's not like Jones is accounting for more than Kelce, Omenihu and both of our starting offensive tackles COMBINED or anything....

Just really a big fan of Chris Jones and his pride at the moment...

DJ's left nut · 08-28-2023, 08:06 AM

Oh yeah, and remember when we signed Frank Clark "for the same as it would cost to cut him!!"

Yeah, we have $7.8 million in dead cap right now and $7.6 million of that is Clark's. But we "Essentially got him for free" - remember? I know that's the case because Matt Derrick said so and if someone has a Twitter account, they must be right.

Coochie liquor · 08-28-2023, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The Clyde issue is guaranteed money.

If you cut Clyde, you still take his $2 million or so in guarantees on your cap but then someone replaces him that costs in the $700K range on the top 51. So cutting Clyde is cap negative.

With as tight as we are on the cap, it just may not be something they're willing to do for a nominal upgrade on the 3rd or even 4th RB.

If they can't get him traded for a ham sandwich, I think they'll keep him. If they had maybe $5 million in cap space I could see MEH and Watson getting cut. But as it stands, if they have to pay those guys, they also need to have them as a couple of placeholders on the top 51. Otherwise it's just dead money hits AND the 2 salaries for the guys that shell game into the top 51 in their absence.

So why not just put him on the PS then?

DJ's left nut · 08-28-2023, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

So why not just put him on the PS then?

PS is a new contract.

You get cut, clear waivers, sign to the PS if that's the only option available to you.

By the time you put him on the PS, the dead money is already on the cap.

DJ's left nut · 08-28-2023, 08:15 AM

Cut Clyde, Blanton, Dickerson, and Reiter then replace them with Perine, Bushman a couple other cheap rookies at different positions (Because roster construction says Dickerson and likely Reiter weren't making the squad anyway) and I think you're roughly cost netural.

I'd kinda like to replace Bush with Khalief the Thief as well and that's just another little $300K kicker that could help.

You can get it done via cutting slightly more expensive veterans and replacing them with the cheaper rookies. But there's just nowhere we're going to find 'easy' money at this point.

Coochie liquor · 08-28-2023, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

PS is a new contract.

You get cut, clear waivers, sign to the PS if that's the only option available to you.

By the time you put him on the PS, the dead money is already on the cap.

Thanks, didn’t know that.

O.city · 08-28-2023, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Or they just don't intend to take on any dead money.

I mean technically Kendall Blanton has a $1 million cap hit but it's not guaranteed and he has no signing bonus. So there's a million bucks cleared without dead money.

Deon Bush could get you another million. Blake Bell, Matt Dickerson, Austin Reiter; that's $3.3 million or so. Now I believe those guys have VSB so they make about a million but they have cap hits in the $900K range. But they could be backfilled by guys like Bushman, Hailassie, Truman Jones and Mike Caliendo and you'd gain about $200K per guy once the top 51 settles out. Blanton and Bush don't have VSBs so you're talking about 300K per cut there.

So with some of these moves that could be made, we could sneak out another $1 million or so and find a little more breathing room.

It's just such a lean cap. I don't know that folks understand how well constructed our cap sheet is at the moment. The problem is that we have a $28 million hit throwing a ****ing temper tantrum at the moment.

But yeah, that's not a problem really. It's not like Jones is accounting for more than Kelce, Omenihu and both of our starting offensive tackles COMBINED or anything....

Just really a big fan of Chris Jones and his pride at the moment...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Oh yeah, and remember when we signed Frank Clark "for the same as it would cost to cut him!!"

Yeah, we have $7.8 million in dead cap right now and $7.6 million of that is Clark's. But we "Essentially got him for free" - remember? I know that's the case because Matt Derrick said so and if someone has a Twitter account, they must be right.

Yeah, but they're gonna want 5-6 for the year right? I dunno.......it's just ****ed that we're in this position.

RunKC · 08-28-2023, 08:22 AM

I think Sneed is gonna be placed on IR to start the season

08-27-2023, 04:30 PM
big nasty kcnut The pizza king of kansas Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Somewhere in the u.s.a. Casino cash: $1580900	*** The Official Chiefs cut down to 53 Thread*** So any news post here on release, signing and practice squad adds Released Blanton, Kendall (TE - Missouri) Bush, Deon (DB - Miami) Reiter, Austin (C - South Florida) Shelton, Danny (NT - Washington) Waived Bootle, Dicaprio (DB - Nebraska) Boye-Doe, Ekow (DB - Kansas State) Buechele, Shane (QB - Southern Methodist) Bushman, Matt (TE - Brigham Young) Christiansen, Cole (LB - Army) Cook, Anthony (DB - Texas) Ealy, Jerrion (RB - Mississippi) Fryfogle, Ty (WR - Indiana) Gathings, Izaiah (WR - Middle Tennessee) Godrick, Chukwuebuka (T - No College) Green, Juwan (WR - Albany, N.Y.) Gutierrez, Sebastian (T - Minot State) Hailassie, Kahlef (DB - Western Kentucky) Hardy, Anderson (T - Appalachian State) Hoskins, Phil (DT - Kentucky) Jackson, Lamar (DB - Nebraska) Jones, Truman (DE - Harvard) Kaindoh, Joshua (DE - Florida State) Kinnard, Darian (T - Kentucky) Lowe, Duron (DB - Liberty) Norman, Isaiah (DB - Marshall) Oladokun, Chris (QB - South Dakota State) Perine, La'Mical (RB - Florida) Powell, Cornell (WR - Clemson) Prince, Deneric (RB - Tulsa) Scott, Ty (WR - Missouri State) Taylor, Reese (DB - Purdue) Williams, Chris (DT - Wagner) Wise, Daniel (DE - Kansas) Waived, Injured Carvin, Jerome (G - Tennessee) Fatukasi, Olakunle (LB - Rutgers) Remigio, Nikko (WR - Fresno State) Traded to Panthers Smith-Marsette, Ihmir (WR - Iowa) Reserve/Did Not Report Jones, Chris (DT - Mississippi State) Acquired Via Trade with Raiders Farrell, Neil (DT - Louisiana State) Last edited by big nasty kcnut; 08-29-2023 at 03:24 PM..
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2959099	The Clyde issue is guaranteed money. If you cut Clyde, you still take his $2 million or so in guarantees on your cap but then someone replaces him that costs in the $700K range on the top 51. So cutting Clyde is cap negative. With as tight as we are on the cap, it just may not be something they're willing to do for a nominal upgrade on the 3rd or even 4th RB. If they can't get him traded for a ham sandwich, I think they'll keep him. If they had maybe $5 million in cap space I could see MEH and Watson getting cut. But as it stands, if they have to pay those guys, they also need to have them as a couple of placeholders on the top 51. Otherwise it's just dead money hits AND the 2 salaries for the guys that shell game into the top 51 in their absence. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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08-28-2023, 08:06 AM	#69
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2959099	Oh yeah, and remember when we signed Frank Clark "for the same as it would cost to cut him!!" Yeah, we have $7.8 million in dead cap right now and $7.6 million of that is Clark's. But we "Essentially got him for free" - remember? I know that's the case because Matt Derrick said so and if someone has a Twitter account, they must be right. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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08-28-2023, 08:15 AM	#72
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2959099	Cut Clyde, Blanton, Dickerson, and Reiter then replace them with Perine, Bushman a couple other cheap rookies at different positions (Because roster construction says Dickerson and likely Reiter weren't making the squad anyway) and I think you're roughly cost netural. I'd kinda like to replace Bush with Khalief the Thief as well and that's just another little $300K kicker that could help. You can get it done via cutting slightly more expensive veterans and replacing them with the cheaper rookies. But there's just nowhere we're going to find 'easy' money at this point. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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08-28-2023, 08:22 AM	#75
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