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Old 04-28-2010, 07:14 PM   Topic Starter
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Prisco: Re-grading 2007 draft: Three-year look back gives real picture

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Kansas City Chiefs: Grade: B-

They had seven picks and all they have to show for their draft is one starter (receiver Dwayne Bowe) and backup running back Kolby Smith. That's not a good haul. Bowe, the first-round pick, has been a good player. But the Chiefs blew picks on defensive linemen in the second and third rounds; Turk McBride and Tank Tyler are now with other teams. Smith is a solid backup who has started, so he has some value as a fifth-round pick. But that's it.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:16 PM   #2
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I feel really really bad for Smith. He had great promise.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:19 PM   #3
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I feel really really bad for Smith. He had great promise.
No, he didn't.

He was a so, 5th round running back. He wasn't explosive, nor was he a game changer.

He was just a guy.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:26 PM   #4
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No, he didn't.

He was a so, 5th round running back. He wasn't explosive, nor was he a game changer.

He was just a guy.
Guess I saw more in him than that idiot LJ we had at the time.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:25 PM   #5
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I feel really really bad for Smith. He had great promise.
No he didn't.

He wasn't a shifty runner, wasn't a powerful runner, didn't have good vision and didn't have home-run speed. He's not a great receiver out of the backfield and he's just pretty average as a pass protector.

I don't understand why anyone goes to bat for this guy. I've never seen anything to suggest he's more than a 3rd running back...if that.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:17 PM   #6
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I have a feeling next year, our 2008 draft will grade out to an A. And the 2009 draft will grade out to a C-.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:27 PM   #7
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I have a feeling next year, our 2008 draft will grade out to an A. And the 2009 draft will grade out to a C-.
I share that feeling but maybe Jackson & Cassel will live up to their draft/trade cost. I'm willing to give this coaching staff some time with them before I pass final judgement. But as of right now, it was not an impressive draft.

Round 1 [Pick 3] (3) Tyson Jackson
Round 2 [Pick 2] (34) Traded to NE for Cassel/Vrabel
Round 3 [Pick 3] (67) Alex Magee
Round 4 [Pick 2] (102) Donald Washington
Round 5 [Pick 3] (139) Colin Brown
Round 6 [Pick 2] (175) Quinten Lawrence
Round 7 [Pick 3] (212) Javarris Williams
Round 7 [Pick 28] (237) Jake O’Connell
Round 7 [Pick 47] (256) Ryan Succop
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:32 PM   #8
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I share that feeling but maybe Jackson & Cassel will live up to their draft/trade cost. I'm willing to give this coaching staff some time with them before I pass final judgement. But as of right now, it was not an impressive draft.

Round 1 [Pick 3] (3) Tyson Jackson
Round 2 [Pick 2] (34) Traded to NE for Cassel/Vrabel
Round 3 [Pick 3] (67) Alex Magee
Round 4 [Pick 2] (102) Donald Washington
Round 5 [Pick 3] (139) Colin Brown
Round 6 [Pick 2] (175) Quinten Lawrence
Round 7 [Pick 3] (212) Javarris Williams
Round 7 [Pick 28] (237) Jake O’Connell
Round 7 [Pick 47] (256) Ryan Succop

Man I look over that list time and time again and just
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:34 PM   #9
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I share that feeling but maybe Jackson & Cassel will live up to their draft/trade cost. I'm willing to give this coaching staff some time with them before I pass final judgement. But as of right now, it was not an impressive draft.

Round 1 [Pick 3] (3) Tyson Jackson
Round 2 [Pick 2] (34) Traded to NE for Cassel/Vrabel
Round 3 [Pick 3] (67) Alex Magee
Round 4 [Pick 2] (102) Donald Washington
Round 5 [Pick 3] (139) Colin Brown
Round 6 [Pick 2] (175) Quinten Lawrence
Round 7 [Pick 3] (212) Javarris Williams
Round 7 [Pick 28] (237) Jake O’Connell
Round 7 [Pick 47] (256) Ryan Succop
You're smokin' crack.

Jackson will NEVER be Harvin, Maclin, Cushing, Matthews, Crabtree or even Oher in terms of impact.

NEVER.

And for that reason alone, they deserve an F-.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:34 PM   #10
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I share that feeling but maybe Jackson & Cassel will live up to their draft/trade cost. I'm willing to give this coaching staff some time with them before I pass final judgement. But as of right now, it was not an impressive draft.

Round 1 [Pick 3] (3) Tyson Jackson
Round 2 [Pick 2] (34) Traded to NE for Cassel/Vrabel
Round 3 [Pick 3] (67) Alex Magee
Round 4 [Pick 2] (102) Donald Washington
Round 5 [Pick 3] (139) Colin Brown
Round 6 [Pick 2] (175) Quinten Lawrence
Round 7 [Pick 3] (212) Javarris Williams
Round 7 [Pick 28] (237) Jake O’Connell
Round 7 [Pick 47] (256) Ryan Succop
Coming from a guy who admittedly ****ed up by overgrading Tyson Jackson....

I think Jackson has the upside to be a decent 5-technique.

But he'll never be Richard Seymour. And that was the only way you could justify picking that high for him.
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Old 04-28-2010, 07:31 PM   #11
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I have a feeling next year, our 2008 draft will grade out to an A. And the 2009 draft will grade out to a C-.
2009 will be lucky to be a D-
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Old 04-28-2010, 08:53 PM   #12
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I think you will be proven wrong. #1) I don't think Cassel will be considered since he wasn't a draft pick.

#2) I think the Chiefs will have a solid starter in Tyson Jackson, a good rotational guy in Alex McGee, and a decent backup TE. And, of course, a kicker that's very, very good.

I imagine most grade that draft a B when we are three years out..... especially if the defense improves.

To be clear, I personally don't think that you should get a 'decent' starter at #3. However, the draft is a crap shoot regardless of the pick #. So, if TJ turns out to be a solid 10 year starter, then most would call it a 'good' pick. I would call it a 'passing grade' pick..... but fans are a little more jaded.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:16 PM   #13
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I think you will be proven wrong. #1) I don't think Cassel will be considered since he wasn't a draft pick.

#2) I think the Chiefs will have a solid starter in Tyson Jackson, a good rotational guy in Alex McGee, and a decent backup TE. And, of course, a kicker that's very, very good.

I imagine most grade that draft a B when we are three years out..... especially if the defense improves.

To be clear, I personally don't think that you should get a 'decent' starter at #3. However, the draft is a crap shoot regardless of the pick #. So, if TJ turns out to be a solid 10 year starter, then most would call it a 'good' pick. I would call it a 'passing grade' pick..... but fans are a little more jaded.
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Tyson Jackson will NEVER be Oher, Harvin, Maclin, Matthews or Cushing.

For THAT alone, he deserves an F- at #3 overall.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:21 PM   #14
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This.

God, what a piece of shit that draft was.
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But Herm was a draft genious!

Some will still try to defend Tank and Turk.
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