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Old 09-25-2005, 08:51 PM   Topic Starter
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Another reason to hate Elway...

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The media slobberknobbing of individual talent over teamwork began with Elway. He wasn't he first star that reporters couldn't deep throat deep enough to the exclusion of his teammates. Once the gush gates were open for Big John, the media could not drink deeply enough from that well. Name one player prior to Elway that the media hyped so completely as Big John.

Yes, the media has gotten worse, culminating, so far, with the love of Moss. Yet just as there could not be a WWII without a WWI, no W withoug a George, no Rita without a Katrina, no Norman without an Albert, no Elvis without a Bono, no Witlock without a Cosell, no Rosie without a Rossane, there can be no Moss without an Elway. The media learned to love the subtle tickle on their chin somewhere. And Hype Ur is none other than Elway.
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:05 PM   #2
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You're leaving out one of the worst - Favre...
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:08 PM   #3
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You're leaving out one of the worst - Favre...
Yeah, he'd certainly qualify. Blame Elway.
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:13 PM   #4
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What about Montana? Rice? LT? Payton?
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:16 PM   #5
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What about Montana? Rice? LT? Payton?
There was a media shift right about Elway's time. Announcers wouldn't spend the entire game talking about one guy until about that time. I think it's because the media in general decided we're all stoopid and they think we can only handle hearing about one thing at a time and couldn't possibly understand the finer points of the game.
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:34 PM   #6
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There was a media shift right about Elway's time.
No, it wasn't "about" Elway's time. It was PRECISELY the instant he came in the league. Keep the message straight.
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:30 PM   #7
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What about Montana? Rice? LT? Payton?
Montana and Rice were on the same team. Montana and Rice produced very early in their career. Elway won his last two years in the league after 15 years of the media slobering over him. Roger Craig, Hacksaw Reynolds, Ronnie Lott, all got love too. It wasn't all one player all the time.

LT, borderline. They had a lot of great defenders. Harry Carson, Pepper Johnson and Leonard Marshall got some credit, too. I woldn't be against adding him to the list as long as you blame Elway. That is the important thing.

Payton, be serious. The year the won the SB it was all about the defense. They didn't even let him score a TD, instead giving it to the Fidge at the goal line. Under hyped.
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:14 PM   #8
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Broadway Joe Nammath was the first media darling.
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:32 PM   #9
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Broadway Joe Nammath was the first media darling.
Namath was over rated, no doubt. He got a ton of milage out of the guarantee. Shouldn't be in the HOF. But it wasn't all Namath all the time. Believe me, I saw the games in those days.
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Old 09-25-2005, 09:16 PM   #10
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yep. I was about to say Joe Namath.

However, Elway and his crybaby pussyishness with the Colts fiasco. Plus factor in he was a Yankee. That pretty much seals his fate.
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Old 09-25-2005, 10:04 PM   #11
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I hate Elway more than ever, even before reading this thread. Just knowing that someone has come up with another reason to hate him is enough for me.
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Old 09-25-2005, 10:06 PM   #12
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I hate Elway more than ever, even before reading this thread. Just knowing that someone has come up with another reason to hate him is enough for me.
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Old 09-25-2005, 10:10 PM   #13
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I'm looking for yet another reason to hate him. What kind of cars did he sell?
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Old 09-25-2005, 10:18 PM   #14
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I'm looking for yet another reason to hate him. What kind of cars did he sell?

Overpriced ones that broke down a lot.


Elway was the first player to put himself above the league that made him rich. Screw him. I'll hate him forever. I hated him when he came into the league as an egocentric ball hog, and I hated him when he left the league as a salary cap-cheating, slack-jawed, Nike-clad thief of the Lombardi. I hate him now, and I hate all of the ego-wads that are his legacy: Bo Jackson, Eli Manning, even Kelly Stouffer. And every time I hate one of them, I hate Elway a little more.
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Old 09-25-2005, 10:10 PM   #15
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