***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[MahomesMagic]

Through the height of 2020 spring wave, 1.8M children had in-person teaching without masks. There were zero Covid19 deaths among children and the teachers had lower risk than other non-health professions. https://t.co/FFqaOsikPw

— Martin Kulldorff (@MartinKulldorff) April 10, 2021

[OnTheWarpath15]

Ok, losing your sense of taste and smell is ****ing weird.

[MVChiefFan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Ok, losing your sense of taste and smell is ****ing weird.

Yep, that was the weirdest part for sure. My wife and I had Italian take out the night it happened. I took a big bite of bread with garlic, olive oil, and balsamic... tasted nothing. I put Vicks under my nose and it might as well have been vaseline.

The next morning I woke up and drank some OJ and I smelled and tasted it. By noon it was gone again and didn’t come back for a week. It was so strange!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Oh my

[O.city]

Starting to see a lot of stuff that the new variants are a lot rougher on younger people. Hopefully it’s just noise

[KCUnited]

I wonder if there's something about young people that makes them more at risk now, other than not yet being eligible for vaccination in some places.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan

Yep, that was the weirdest part for sure. My wife and I had Italian take out the night it happened. I took a big bite of bread with garlic, olive oil, and balsamic... tasted nothing. I put Vicks under my nose and it might as well have been vaseline.

The next morning I woke up and drank some OJ and I smelled and tasted it. By noon it was gone again and didn’t come back for a week. It was so strange!

Weird for sure. I lost both smell and taste entirely for 1 full day. By day 2, it slowly started coming back. After about a week, I was back to normal. We were part of the lucky group. I know some people who have been without for months.

[ChiliConCarnage]

4.6 million jabs yesterday.

I read J&J deliveries are gonna be down big next week. From 4 mill to 400k due to that lab issue that made them destroy a ton of supply

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by O.city

Starting to see a lot of stuff that the new variants are a lot rougher on younger people. Hopefully it’s just noise

It looks like the variants are rougher all the way around including younger people. There's enough data I don't think it's going to turn out to be noise.

Variants usually get milder but that is not a given and the variants have selection pressure to re-infect people that have already gotten it once or have been vaccination.

[Stewie]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Well, I lied. Woke up at about 2am with chills and spent the whole night tossing and turning. Fever topped out at 103.5. I'm sore as all hell, but I think I'm getting better at this point. I'm guessing tomorrow I'll be fine.

Still, that hit me way later than expected and way harder. Kind of odd.

Sheesh. That sounds worse than getting covid itself. I know a few people that have tested positive and had nowhere near that trouble.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Stewie

Sheesh. That sounds worse than getting covid itself. I know a few people that have tested positive and had nowhere near that trouble.

Definitely hit me harder than I was expecting. I largely feel fine today at least. Still a little sore, but more like my normal back pain but a bit worse.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Definitely hit me harder than I was expecting. I largely feel fine today at least. Still a little sore, but more like my normal back pain but a bit worse.

From what I've heard - the opinion around here is that if you've had Covid the first dose hits hard. If you haven't had covid, the second dose hits you.

Just rumors & speculation, just found it interesting if true.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

From what I've heard - the opinion around here is that if you've had Covid the first dose hits hard. If you haven't had covid, the second dose hits you.

Just rumors & speculation, just found it interesting if true.

It makes sense considering what the whole idea is. If you have had it you have antibodies so your body reacts fast and fierce to the 1st shot.

2nd shot causes the same bodily reaction as above due to having antibodies from the 1st shot.

Its why you are ideally supposed to wait 90 days post covid before getting the vaccine if you have had it.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

It makes sense considering what the whole idea is. If you have had it you have antibodies so your body reacts fast and fierce to the 1st shot.

2nd shot causes the same bodily reaction as above due to having antibodies from the 1st shot.

Its why you are ideally supposed to wait 90 days post covid before getting the vaccine if you have had it.

That does make sense.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

From what I've heard - the opinion around here is that if you've had Covid the first dose hits hard. If you haven't had covid, the second dose hits you.

Just rumors & speculation, just found it interesting if true.

Got my second Pfizer shot Sunday. Was a little tried and the arm is sore today (still going to the gym though) but no other reaction.