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Old 01-26-2008, 06:00 PM  
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Possible signs that I tip too much?

I order a couple pizzas for a few of us last week before watching NFL playoff games. Through cell phone conversations with friends I notice that a few friends had also ordered a pizza 15 minutes before we did from the same place, I live several blocks farther away, but I get my pizza first.

Yesterday morning, I go for my usual Friday breakfast at IHOP. (I leave home earlier than usual on fridays to get a paper and sit down to some blueberry pancakes before work). I happened to notice a couple waitresses a few tables away briefly argue about who would take my order. The winner of the arguement brings my pancakes swimming with a lot more blueberries and whipped cream than anyone else I could see eating the same sort of thing nearby. If my iced tea so much as drops halfway empty, she's back asking if I'd like a refill with lemon.

Thoughts? If you tip heavily, have you noticed that people start to remember who you are and jump accordingly?
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:26 PM   #151
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maybe me wife isn't accurately reporting her income to me then
There's a shocker, I doubt that my wife accurately reports my income to me.
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:26 PM   #152
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I've always wondered about the wait staff at really upper-end restaurants. For example, for birthdays, my wife and I will often go to a restaurant where the total bill is in the $150 range. A 20% tip there is $30, and I know the waitress typically has four or five tables. However, I also know that they typically share their tips with the other staff, too. I wonder what they pull down?
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:27 PM   #153
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:28 PM   #154
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Me, too. My SIL was recently a waitress at a restaurant that was below that price range and talked about averaging $90 a day in tips.

The math there comes down to $14.37 per hour (before taxes), which comes to $29,889.60.

Add just another $10 a night in tips and you raise that yearly income $2,600.
some smaller places develop a strong regular base where that's possible. made at least 30k as a day bartender at a joint like that. owners closed us down to open a new location in ****in kansas.
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:28 PM   #155
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Are they really, really rich, or is there a flaw in my idea?


And for the record, I'm not anti-waitperson. However, I think that there are some professions that tend to get higher wages because people see them more. For every waitress making $30,000 to $35,000, there's a dishwasher making $15,000 who is working just as hard. I'd rather see the dishwasher make more money than the waitress, because I don't think the waitress's job is that much harder.

(Disclaimer: I worked my way through junior high, high school, and much of college as a cook, dishwasher, and busboy.)
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yeah, he's pretty much the god of independent pizzerias
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maybe me wife isn't accurately reporting her income to me then
Does she drive a Mercedes?

I have access to my wife's W-2, but I suspect that she underreports her expenses to me. "Wow, a Gucci purse for $30? You DID get a good deal."
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Does she drive a Mercedes?

I have access to my wife's W-2, but I suspect that she underreports her expenses to me. "Wow, a Gucci purse for $30? You DID get a good deal."
no, a kia

The only way she gets a mercedes is if she saves the money outright, we don't do payments around these parts
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Old 01-26-2008, 10:31 PM   #158
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I've always wondered about the wait staff at really upper-end restaurants. For example, for birthdays, my wife and I will often go to a restaurant where the total bill is in the $150 range. A 20% tip there is $30, and I know the waitress typically has four or five tables. However, I also know that they typically share their tips with the other staff, too. I wonder what they pull down?
they make REALLY good money, but its harder to get a job at a high end restaurant.
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yeah, he's pretty much the god of independent pizzerias

Dammit. I really need to start acting on these great ideas of mine. I just hope my idea of posting pictures of naked women on the Internet hasn't already been done.
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some smaller places develop a strong regular base where that's possible. made at least 30k as a day bartender at a joint like that. owners closed us down to open a new location in ****in kansas.

Which is why this is key to being a good server. Building regular customers is a great way to make a steady income. The most successful severs are the people who have regulars come in just to see them. I know when I lived in Springtown, I could go into work on Sunday, work from 12-7 and walk out with close to $200 each week. The same 9-10 families came in each week to see me and have lunch after church.
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I'm pretty sure that's the first site that went up
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I've always wondered about the wait staff at really upper-end restaurants. For example, for birthdays, my wife and I will often go to a restaurant where the total bill is in the $150 range. A 20% tip there is $30, and I know the waitress typically has four or five tables. However, I also know that they typically share their tips with the other staff, too. I wonder what they pull down?
I wonder if you have to work your way up like in baseball. Fresh out of high school you are a young eager rookie chasing a dream, working at the cheap little IHOP I sometimes eat at. Do well, show the world that you have potential, put up good numbers and you may get called up to AA where you wait tables at Applebee's. A blessed few of them are able to break into the $40-$50 restaurants, a little more money but still not rich.

Then you have the rare stars of the profession that make the serious money. The ones who no longer have to care about tips, because they have proven themselves and worked their way into the show. Restaurants where they wear nice clothes and serve tiny portions of food at laughable prices in places that play fancy music in the background.
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they make REALLY good money, but its harder to get a job at a high end restaurant.
Yeah, I figure those gigs are pretty competitive.

At some point, I remember meeting a guy who was a waiter at one of those restaurants. He drove a nice car and lived in a nice neighborhood, and was in his 50s. I remember thinking that it wouldn't be fun to have a 30-year career as a waiter, but apparently he had worked himself into a position where it was a very good living.
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Yeah, I figure those gigs are pretty competitive.

At some point, I remember meeting a guy who was a waiter at one of those restaurants. He drove a nice car and lived in a nice neighborhood, and was in his 50s. I remember thinking that it wouldn't be fun to have a 30-year career as a waiter, but apparently he had worked himself into a position where it was a very good living.
I have a friend in Chicago who moved downtown because he got this job at this really super high class restaurant. He said waiting tables there was a really fast-paced job, but he was making ridiculous money. Then they made him a manager and his salary went down.
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I'm pretty sure that's the first site that went up

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