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Old 01-26-2008, 06:00 PM  
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Possible signs that I tip too much?
I order a couple pizzas for a few of us last week before watching NFL playoff games. Through cell phone conversations with friends I notice that a few friends had also ordered a pizza 15 minutes before we did from the same place, I live several blocks farther away, but I get my pizza first.

Yesterday morning, I go for my usual Friday breakfast at IHOP. (I leave home earlier than usual on fridays to get a paper and sit down to some blueberry pancakes before work). I happened to notice a couple waitresses a few tables away briefly argue about who would take my order. The winner of the arguement brings my pancakes swimming with a lot more blueberries and whipped cream than anyone else I could see eating the same sort of thing nearby. If my iced tea so much as drops halfway empty, she's back asking if I'd like a refill with lemon.

Thoughts? If you tip heavily, have you noticed that people start to remember who you are and jump accordingly?
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:02 PM   #46
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While I'd agree that not tipping is "wrong," it's not stealing. There is no law against being a dick.
i'd expect you to understand.
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:04 PM   #47
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i'd expect you to understand.
I understand where you're coming from, but like I said... there's no law against it.
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:08 PM   #48
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I understand where you're coming from, but like I said... there's no law against it.
but taking up the time of the server, who gets paid by tips, and TAXED on total sales, without reimbursement is taking money out of the pocket of hard working people. it may not be "technically" stealing, you are TAKING money from people. people who probably really need that money.
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:10 PM   #49
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but taking up the time of the server, who gets paid by tips, and TAXED on total sales, without reimbursement is taking money out of the pocket of hard working people. it may not be "technically" stealing, you are TAKING money from people. people who probably really need that money.
agreed
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:13 PM   #50
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While I'd agree that not tipping is "wrong," it's not stealing. There is no law against being a dick.
If you aren't ever going to return to the establishment, are traveling, and do not live in the area I see no point in tipping. What are they gonna do
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:13 PM   #51
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...trust me, i recognize non-tippers, or low tipping families...
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:13 PM   #52
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but taking up the time of the server, who gets paid by tips, and TAXED on total sales, without reimbursement is taking money out of the pocket of hard working people. it may not be "technically" stealing, you are TAKING money from people. people who probably really need that money.
I'm struggling with that rationale because the server took the job with the full knowledge that his or her livelihood would be dependent upon what essentially boils down to the generosity of others.

People are not required to tip. That's the bottom line. If someone wants a more stable job with more reliable income, they shouldn't be working in food service.

Don't get me wrong, I tip. And I tip fairly well. People that don't tip should be taken out and beaten.

But tipping is not required. It's a gratuity, which by definition is "a gift."
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:14 PM   #53
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yep and bringing your rolls, carrying your dishes to the back bringing you new plates and being a servant to your every stupid whim
When I do buffet, its usually Chinese. No rolls, and the plates are near the food. I don't have any whims...
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:14 PM   #54
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If you aren't ever going to return to the establishment, are traveling, and do not live in the area I see no point in tipping. What are they gonna do
jack your credit card account and go online shopping

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I had to fire someone for doing that once
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:15 PM   #55
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When I do buffet, its usually Chinese. No rolls, and the plates are near the food. I don't have any whims...
oh you got whims, everyones got whims
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oh you got whims, everyones got whims
Yes, to go eat chinese buffet...
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:21 PM   #58
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I'm struggling with that rationale because the server took the job with the full knowledge that his or her livelihood would be dependent upon what essentially boils down to the generosity of others.

People are not required to tip. That's the bottom line. If someone wants a more stable job with more reliable income, they shouldn't be working in food service.

Don't get me wrong, I tip. And I tip fairly well. People that don't tip should be taken out and beaten.

But tipping is not required. It's a gratuity, which by definition is "a gift."

I tell you what you should do everyone should not tip for a whole month

Then see what happens to the price of your food next time you go out to eat, the affordability of the food is directly related to the cost. If a server makes no tips then the company will have to raise wages. Guess who that gets passed on to. I guarantee in the long run it'd probably be cheaper to lay down a buck or two.

Furthermore, I disagree with the generosity statement. The law was made to exclude tipped employees from minimum wage to save in particular restaurants alot of money. It obviously is expected or there wouldn't be any law.
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:24 PM   #59
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I tell you what you should do everyone should not tip for a whole month

Then see what happens to the price of your food next time you go out to eat, the affordability of the food is directly related to the cost. If a server makes no tips then the company will have to raise wages. Guess who that gets passed on to. I guarantee in the long run it'd probably be cheaper to lay down a buck or two.

Furthermore, I disagree with the generosity statement. The law was made to exclude tipped employees from minimum wage to save in particular restaurants alot of money. It obviously is expected or there wouldn't be any law.
It's expected, yes. It's deserved (IMO), yes. It's required, NO.

That makes it NOT stealing.

I agree with the majority. I tip, I'm not saying I don't. I tip pretty well.

And I totally get that if tipping weren't expected the price of food would be higher.

But here's the deal... it's not required. If it were required it would be added to every bill, from McDonald's to Dairy Queen, from Houston's to McCormick & Schmick's.
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I'm just repeating so people don't put me in GOATSE's camp.

I tip at all times.

One time I didn't tip -- service was horrible and I spoke with a manager to make the point that I didn't "forget" the tip and that I wasn't a bad tipper, that the service was atrocious.

I'm simply arguing that to not tip is NOT stealing.
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