NFL Draft Okay, so WHAT exactly is so goddamn great about the 2018 QB class? - Page 20

**RealSNR** · 04-09-2017, 08:57 AM

I see a loooooot of question marks here. A bunch of guys who would be 3rd or 4th rounders in THIS draft class if they declared this year. A bunch of these dudes are so young they might not even declare for the draft. And finally, we got a bunch of spread QBs who.... [gasp!]... need time to acclimate to an NFL pro style offense and develop the footwork and timing of taking snaps under center.

I see Sam Darnold. That's great. There's your #1 overall. IF HE ****ING DECLARES, THAT IS. I see Josh Rosen, who looked good in 2015 but could wind up as another Christian Hackenburg who never puts it all together. And I see a bunch of dried cum with question marks, JUST LIKE THIS QB DRAFT CLASS.

Here's how Walter Football has them ranked:

1. Sam Darnold, USC
2. Josh Rosen, UCLA
3. Luke Falk, Washington State
4. Josh Allen, Wyoming
5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn
6. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi State
7. Chase Litton, Marshall
8. Riley Ferguson, Memphis

COULD this be an awesome and deep draft class for QBs? Yes, absoutely. No question about it. But guess what. There's an equal chance that this QB class flames out and looks just as bad as the 2013 class, particularly if Sam Darnold doesn't declare.

People who bitch about the 2017 class don't ****ing get it. They think if there's no true top end QB, that means they all suck. What do the Chiefs ****ing care about the quality of the top guys in a given QB draft class? We're not going to be in a position to draft them!

Again, let me say this slowly, so the reeruns and assholes can hear me:

In ANY GIVEN DRAFT CLASS, the top QB prospects with the best resumes and attributes are irrelevant to the QB draft needs of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have zero shot at picking any of them. The worst teams with the biggest QB needs will draft all of these players before Dorsey can even begin to pick up the goddamn phone to call and move up.

Tell me what we gain from NOT drafting a QB in 2017 so we can draft Josh Allen, Jarrett Stidham, or Chase ****ing Litton in 2018, a FULL YEAR LONGER where Alex Smith is the only ****ing thing we have at QB.

**Buehler445** · 01-12-2018, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I just don't know if Mayfield has the arm talent to be good in the NFL, like I think his upside might be decent backup.

I don't think his arm is any worse than Smith who has shown he can be an effective starter, but he's going to have to learn which throws he can make and which ones he cannot. Whiiiiiiiich might be his problem.

DRM08 · 01-12-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I don't think his arm is any worse than Smith who has shown he can be an effective starter, but he's going to have to learn which throws he can make and which ones he cannot. Whiiiiiiiich might be his problem.

I know this much. He is very arrogant. Believes he has Michael Vick scrambling ability and Pat Mahomes arm talent. He is a good scrambler with a good arm, but it will be a rude awakening for him in the NFL.

BryanBusby · 01-12-2018, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't even think Jackson should play QB, Mayfield on top of being short I just don't see it.

I like Jackson and will give him a little benefit of doubt, as Petrino isn't a QB developer.

He needs a lot of work though.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-12-2018, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Mayfield I can see having a Ryan Leaf esque meltdown. Hell, Leaf looked more emotionally mature than Mayfield in his last college season at least on the field.

Mayfield’s arm isn’t in the same universe as leaf.

cmdrzman · 01-12-2018, 05:12 PM

Patrick Mahomes is basically Kordell Stewert with a stronger arm... Mahomes has happy feet.. dude cant stand tall in the pocket and deliver a pass... every "wow play" he does is because he scrambles out of formation and the entire play breaks down... it becomes sandlot football... he'll roll out and just toss it up in hopes his WR will come down with it...

This article pretty much gives it to ya in yer face

http://insidethepylon.com/pylon-u/te...ck-mahomes-ii/

Pitt Gorilla · 01-12-2018, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cmdrzman

Patrick Mahomes is basically Kordell Stewert with a stronger arm... Mahomes has happy feet.. dude cant stand tall in the pocket and deliver a pass... every "wow play" he does is because he scrambles out of formation and the entire play breaks down... it becomes sandlot football... he'll roll out and just toss it up in hopes his WR will come down with it...

This article pretty much gives it to ya in yer face

http://insidethepylon.com/pylon-u/te...ck-mahomes-ii/

great article from 2016.

Sassy Squatch · 01-12-2018, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cmdrzman

Patrick Mahomes is basically Kordell Stewert with a stronger arm... Mahomes has happy feet.. dude cant stand tall in the pocket and deliver a pass... every "wow play" he does is because he scrambles out of formation and the entire play breaks down... it becomes sandlot football... he'll roll out and just toss it up in hopes his WR will come down with it...

This article pretty much gives it to ya in yer face

http://insidethepylon.com/pylon-u/te...ck-mahomes-ii/

, an article from 2016, bro? Really? Weren't you the one pimping Gareon Conley as having a stellar camp when he hadn't even suited up at that point? Out of all the trolls we have, you seem like the dumbest.

KChiefs1 · 01-12-2018, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I just don't know if Mayfield has the arm talent to be good in the NFL, like I think his upside might be decent backup.

Mecca I respect your opinion on the draft. Where do you think Drew Lock fits into the 2019 class?

**MahiMike** · 01-12-2018, 07:58 PM

Baker Mayfield isn't even on the OP. He's the cream of the crop.

jaa1025 · 01-12-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cmdrzman

Patrick Mahomes is basically Kordell Stewert with a stronger arm... Mahomes has happy feet.. dude cant stand tall in the pocket and deliver a pass... every "wow play" he does is because he scrambles out of formation and the entire play breaks down... it becomes sandlot football... he'll roll out and just toss it up in hopes his WR will come down with it...

This article pretty much gives it to ya in yer face

http://insidethepylon.com/pylon-u/te...ck-mahomes-ii/

LOL. One of the last QB's i'd ever compare him to. Happy feet is the last thing I'd describe. His pocket awareness and movement inside the pocket are already better than most QB's. He delivered a few "wow" plays in Denver from the pocket. And no...that is ridiculous.

I'm pretty confident that you have never actually watched Mahomes play a single game, college or pro.

**Dave Lane** · 01-12-2018, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

LOL. One of the last QB's i'd ever compare him to. Happy feet is the last thing I'd describe. His pocket awareness and movement inside the pocket are already better than most QB's. He delivered a few "wow" plays in Denver from the pocket. And no...that is ridiculous.

I'm pretty confident that you have never actually watched Mahomes play a single game, college or pro.

Completely this. Mahomes is the anti-Stewart, keeps eyes downfield has a good idea of the pocket and pressure. Very polished for a 1 game rookie.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-12-2018, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

LOL. One of the last QB's i'd ever compare him to. Happy feet is the last thing I'd describe. His pocket awareness and movement inside the pocket are already better than most QB's. He delivered a few "wow" plays in Denver from the pocket. And no...that is ridiculous.

I'm pretty confident that you have never actually watched Mahomes play a single game, college or pro.

He hasn't. He's a troll, and should be treated as such.

MahomesMagic · 01-12-2018, 09:39 PM

Mahomes > 2018 QB's.

Reerun_KC · 01-12-2018, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I just don't know if Mayfield has the arm talent to be good in the NFL, like I think his upside might be decent backup.

He’s a gigantic douche. Leaf 2.0.

**RealSNR** · 01-12-2018, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Baker Mayfield isn't even on the OP. He's the cream of the crop.

Sometimes you post stuff and it makes me think you have a severe learning disability.

04-09-2017, 08:57 AM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2370208	Okay, so WHAT exactly is so goddamn great about the 2018 QB class? I see a loooooot of question marks here. A bunch of guys who would be 3rd or 4th rounders in THIS draft class if they declared this year. A bunch of these dudes are so young they might not even declare for the draft. And finally, we got a bunch of spread QBs who.... [gasp!]... need time to acclimate to an NFL pro style offense and develop the footwork and timing of taking snaps under center. I see Sam Darnold. That's great. There's your #1 overall. IF HE **ING DECLARES, THAT IS. I see Josh Rosen, who looked good in 2015 but could wind up as another Christian Hackenburg who never puts it all together. And I see a bunch of dried cum with question marks, JUST LIKE THIS QB DRAFT CLASS. Here's how Walter Football has them ranked: 1. Sam Darnold, USC 2. Josh Rosen, UCLA 3. Luke Falk, Washington State 4. Josh Allen, Wyoming 5. Jarrett Stidham, Auburn 6. Nick Fitzgerald, Mississippi State 7. Chase Litton, Marshall 8. Riley Ferguson, Memphis COULD this be an awesome and deep draft class for QBs? Yes, absoutely. No question about it. But guess what. There's an equal chance that this QB class flames out and looks just as bad as the 2013 class, particularly if Sam Darnold doesn't declare. People who bitch about the 2017 class don't ing get it. They think if there's no true top end QB, that means they all suck. What do the Chiefs ing care about the quality of the top guys in a given QB draft class? We're not going to be in a position to draft them! Again, let me say this slowly, so the reeruns and assholes can hear me: In ANY GIVEN DRAFT CLASS, the top QB prospects with the best resumes and attributes are irrelevant to the QB draft needs of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have zero shot at picking any of them. The worst teams with the biggest QB needs will draft all of these players before Dorsey can even begin to pick up the goddamn phone to call and move up. Tell me what we gain from NOT drafting a QB in 2017 so we can draft Josh Allen, Jarrett Stidham, or Chase ing Litton in 2018, a FULL YEAR LONGER where Alex Smith is the only **ing thing we have at QB.
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01-12-2018, 05:12 PM	#290
cmdrzman Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Casino cash: $10000400	Patrick Mahomes is basically Kordell Stewert with a stronger arm... Mahomes has happy feet.. dude cant stand tall in the pocket and deliver a pass... every "wow play" he does is because he scrambles out of formation and the entire play breaks down... it becomes sandlot football... he'll roll out and just toss it up in hopes his WR will come down with it... This article pretty much gives it to ya in yer face http://insidethepylon.com/pylon-u/te...ck-mahomes-ii/
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01-12-2018, 07:58 PM	#294
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	Baker Mayfield isn't even on the OP. He's the cream of the crop. __________________ 99.9%
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01-12-2018, 09:39 PM	#298
MahomesMagic Generational Player Join Date: May 2017 Location: Honolulu Casino cash: $4150400	Mahomes > 2018 QB's.
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