***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Flying empty planes???

I read at one point they had more pilots on payroll (4K) than travelers. Told them all to go ahead and take voluntary leave.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Sometimes when I puke , I shit and sometimes when I shit, I cum. But they won't test me for COVID those bastards.

That's how nicknames start, . . Monticore the Canadian Cumshitter.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

https://www.rageon.com/a/products?fi...ternalId=iNGbA

I wonder what would happen if I wore that to work.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by eDave

I read at one point they had more pilots on payroll (4K) than travelers. Told them all to go ahead and take voluntary leave.

I think I saw one airline taking the seats out as a type of cargo plane conversion.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Common symptoms:


•fever.


•tiredness.


•dry cough.




Some people may experience:


•aches and pains.


•nasal congestion.


•runny nose.


•sore throat.


•diarrhoea.

Pick a given day and 9/10 people are going to report one of those symptoms. Especially during allergy season. I've had congestion or a runny nose most days over the past few weeks.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Common symptoms:


•fever.


•tiredness.


•dry cough.




Some people may experience:


•aches and pains.


•nasal congestion.


•runny nose.


•sore throat.


•diarrhoea.

Yes I know the symptoms but if they are so ****ing mild then is your ache really from covid or was the fact you slept funky the reason you might have a bit of soreness in your back?

And runny nose during allergy season? Get outta town!!!


Seriously though...it just seems like a reach. They were all asymptomatic but one of them blew their nose so that's a symptom. One had a scratchy throat for a bit when they woke up so that's a symptom.

I am just saying when these "symptoms" are so mile that people pay them little to no mind then WTF?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I wonder what would happen if I wore that to work.

All depends on where you work I suppose.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes I know the symptoms but if they are so ****ing mild then is your ache really from covid or was the fact you slept funky the reason you might have a bit of soreness in your back?

And runny nose during allergy season? Get outta town!!!


Seriously though...it just seems like a reach. They were all asymptomatic but one of them blew their nose so that's a symptom. One had a scratchy throat for a bit when they woke up so that's a symptom.

I am just saying when these "symptoms" are so mile that people pay them little to no mind then WTF?

it is also why it spreads easily, it is a pretty tricky virus. most people would not consider staying home with most of those , depending on the level of diarrhea I guess.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by TLO

All depends on where you work I suppose.

True that.

I'm pretty sure I would be fired.

Or at the very least disciplined. I don't think I'll chance it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Lzen

True that.

I'm pretty sure I would be fired.

Or at the very least disciplined. I don't think I'll chance it.

I want to wear a Bill Cosby one when I do breast ultrasounds.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Monticore

it is also why it spreads easily, it is a pretty tricky virus.

Dr. Williams today said they're really starting to believe that the asymptomatic crowd don't spread the disease as easily. He cited the contact tracing they've done from the people who tested positive at the plant, and noted very few of them were showing any symptoms at all.
He said it's generally when people are coughing that they are most contagious.

In theory that makes perfect sense, but we know there's at least some degree of asymptomatic spread.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

Dr. Williams today said they're really starting to believe that the asymptomatic crowd don't spread the disease as easily. He cited the contact tracing they've done from the people who tested positive at the plant, and noted very few of them were showing any symptoms at all.
He said it's generally when people are coughing that they are most contagious.

In theory that makes perfect sense, but we know there's at least some degree of asymptomatic spread.

I am sure coughing and sneezing are more likely to spread it, but just because you only have a sore throat or runny nose doesn't you might not cough or sneeze at some point and you will likely be where you shouldn't. people with fever and cough are probably at home.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by TLO

Pick a given day and 9/10 people are going to report one of those symptoms. Especially during allergy season. I've had congestion or a runny nose most days over the past few weeks.

Which probably didn't help the situations in Wuhan or Northern Italy when word got out about a virus that caused those symptoms and death.

[TLO]

Final Missouri numbers for the day

Cases in Missouri: 8,916

Total Deaths: 377
(*There was a delay in the reporting of a number of deaths into the Missouri tracking system. In addition to the past 24 hours, the increase today includes some deaths that occurred between May 1-3.)

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 100,747
As of 2:00 p.m. CT, May 5

Missouri supposed to be launching a new website tonight that is supposed to be loaded with data. Can't wait to see it.

The rate of positives has dropped by a few percentage points here recently.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by O.city

UPDATE: New mutation in #coronavirus genome has been detected that mirrors a mutation in 2003 SARS outbreak which weakened that virus & slowed the epidemic. This is first sign that a similar genetic mutation could weaken coronavirus & slow the pandemic. https://t.co/8MLekloi06

— Matt McCarthy (@DrMattMcCarthy) May 5, 2020

This would be huge it seems.