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Berry thinking about and checking into surgery
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02-07-2019, 03:37 PM | #46 |
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He should already be in the operating room. I wonder if he'll decide to have the surgery right before next season so it locks the Chiefs into paying another year of his contract?
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02-07-2019, 03:53 PM | #48 | |
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02-07-2019, 03:53 PM | #49 | |
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This is known as the "Barry Sanders Rule" because this is exactly how the situation played out in his case, as he was required to pay back a portion of his bonus. The difference between now and then is there was no precedent when Sanders played; now, it's explicitly written into the CBA to allow for this arbitration. |
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02-07-2019, 03:57 PM | #51 | |
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Even then, the arbitrator ruled he had to pay back $1.8M of his $11M signing bonus (1999). https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...022-story.html Berry retiring does not help the Chiefs. At all. |
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02-07-2019, 03:58 PM | #52 | |
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There is not much difference. Chiefs would owe the remainder of his signing bonus money on the cap that could be spread out over two years. If he retires the Chiefs can force him to give back the signing bonus for the years he didn't play which could give us that salary cap space as well.
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02-07-2019, 04:07 PM | #54 |
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Retirement is basically the same effect as a post June 1st cut I believe, it creates dead money but relieves cap space to some extent.
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02-07-2019, 04:08 PM | #55 | |
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Meaning, they get ZERO relief in 2019. And then have to see an arbitrator in 2020 to try and get his bonus back for 2019. The Lions got $1.8M back once a year until his contract was up, not counting the first year. All while his contract still counted 100% against their cap. |
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02-07-2019, 04:09 PM | #56 | |
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Retirement creates no cap relief at all until they go through arbitration and then it's spread out based on contingencies like him not playing again. |
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02-07-2019, 04:09 PM | #57 |
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Hopefully the Oneida tribes can fix his spirits up there.
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02-07-2019, 04:14 PM | #58 |
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Actually, it appears the retirement works like a PRE-June 1st cut. Meaning they'd be on the hook immediately and can't spread it over 2 years. Finding conflicting information though, of course.
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02-07-2019, 04:24 PM | #59 |
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It is based on when he files the retirement paperwork. After June 1 still works but it can't be designated like a cut can (I don't think, not sure).
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02-07-2019, 04:30 PM | #60 |
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If he plans to not play he could let KC cut him with post June 1 designation and not sign with anyone else and file his retirement papers later in the year.
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