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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
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Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
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People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

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Old 05-04-2020, 01:31 PM   #27556
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NEW YORK CORONAVIRUS HOSPITALIZATIONS LOWEST SINCE MARCH AFTER 19 STRAIGHT DAYS OF DECLINE
https://www.newsweek.com/new-york-co...ecline-1501607
The 3 day rolling average of NEW hospitalizations was 897.

897 people average a day got hospitalized.
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:31 PM   #27557
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This is true but the statement implies 70k deaths over the course of all the infections since they started, which would not be true if it’s been here since January.
It’s a fact that it’s been here since at least early January ? I thought I read or heard that someone here in Kansas had been sick in early Jan and dr suspected covid and had them come back in and tested them recently and they tested out that they’d had it?
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:31 PM   #27558
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Well that's just it though. Places like SK, Iceland, etc. who have populations and land mass smaller that a couple of our states put together at best are a lot easier to control, I agree.

I just don't think the virus is ever going to go away. What virus has?
No, it won't just go away. But it's FAR easier to control when you push it down to a minimum before you start easing things up.

And as for population density, it's not like that's the only driver. We talk about NYC subways, but Seoul, SK is far more dense than NYC, and they've done very well.
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:31 PM   #27559
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Certain states probably never should've locked down at all, based onthe information we have now. But what's done is done. Many states, particularly in the west/southwest should be opening back up as soon as practical.

For example, here in AZ we're seeing the curve pretty much flattened, the number of people admitted to hospitals has tailed off, the death rate has nearly zeroed out. In the four months since the virus has been tracked here in AZ, we're still under 400, and Maricopa county, the largest AZ county, is still under 200, at 168, up 7 from yesterday. Thankfully our governor isn't a complete tard, and we're opening things back up completely by the 15th, with some temporary guidelines of course.

Most of the rest of the West/Southwest/Northwest (with a couple exceptions) should be planning on the same for the sake of their economies and people.
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:32 PM   #27560
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The 3 day rolling average of NEW hospitalizations was 897.

897 people average a day got hospitalized.
Everyone else is wrong, I get it
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:32 PM   #27561
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https://www.newsweek.com/54-percent-...-shows-1501809

54 PERCENT OF AMERICANS WANT TO WORK REMOTE REGULARLY AFTER CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC ENDS, NEW POLL SHOWS
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:32 PM   #27562
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https://www.newsweek.com/54-percent-...-shows-1501809

54 PERCENT OF AMERICANS WANT TO WORK REMOTE REGULARLY AFTER CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC ENDS, NEW POLL SHOWS
Gee, that's a shocker Actually it is. I figured it would be higher.
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:33 PM   #27563
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No, it won't just go away. But it's FAR easier to control when you push it down to a minimum before you start easing things up.

And as for population density, it's not like that's the only driver. We talk about NYC subways, but Seoul, SK is far more dense than NYC, and they've done very well.
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:33 PM   #27564
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I can't wrap my head around how anything in a timeline changes the fact almost 70k died in 2 months.


The information on dates doesn't change that fact. It never can or will.


Even if it was here for 10 years it killed almost 70 k in the past 2 months.

I’m not trying to change the outcomes on anything. But it leads to questions like what was different in the previous two months to the most recent two months? What happened to cause that rapid change in severe cases? Just bad luck on who got infected? Virus mutations?

Using your 10 year example, if the virus was here for 10 years relatively harmless then all of the sudden led to 70k deaths, you wouldn’t question what happened to cause that? Those are the types of things I think would change, the questions we ask and seek to answer.
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:33 PM   #27565
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Everyone else is wrong, I get it
Your article says 897 NEW hospitalizations a day average. Correct?
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:34 PM   #27566
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I’m not trying to change the outcomes on anything. But it leads to questions like what was different in the previous two months to the most recent two months? What happened to cause that rapid change in severe cases? Just bad luck on who got infected? Virus mutations?

Using your 10 year example, if the virus was here for 10 years relatively harmless then all of the sudden led to 70k deaths, you wouldn’t question what happened to cause that?
That's not the point.

You said if it's 70k dead in 4 months the thinking changes. 70k died in 2 months.

You actually moved the goals.
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No, it won't just go away. But it's FAR easier to control when you push it down to a minimum before you start easing things up.

And as for population density, it's not like that's the only driver. We talk about NYC subways, but Seoul, SK is far more dense than NYC, and they've done very well.
Ah, one should take the South Korean numbers with at least a pinch of salt. I have dozens of family members over there and at least a dozen are doctors, and some of their information doesn't add up to what their government is telling the world. just saying.
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No, it won't just go away. But it's FAR easier to control when you push it down to a minimum before you start easing things up.

And as for population density, it's not like that's the only driver. We talk about NYC subways, but Seoul, SK is far more dense than NYC, and they've done very well.
I won't disagree with that at all. But again what sounds good and what is feasible oftner are two different things.

SK did some things I think we should have by literally disinfecting cities. I mean I saw trucks like street sweepers going down the streets fogging the shit out of the place. NYC decided not to even sanitize the subways until 23k people died.
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Your article says 897 NEW hospitalizations a day average. Correct?
New York saw a peak in hospitalizations on April 12 with 18,825, a number that has been declining ever since. Hospital bed capacity in the state is over 90,000, after Cuomo instructed hospitals to increase the previous 53,000-bed capacity.
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