Chiefs **** BOB SUTTON

FAX · 10-09-2018, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I don't care, after this many years of bad Ds, I'm ready to try somebody new as DC. Being a bottom feeder should bother the players, the team's leadership, the ownership, and all of the fans, and not just be an "oh well" sort of topic.

Personally, I love great defense (I am a Chiefs fan, after all). I am a defensive homer through and through. It's gone, though. The way it used to be is no more and probably never will be again.

The NFL wants lots of scoring (because it equates to better ratings), so offense gets the rules and defense gets the shaft. That's the way it is.

But does that mean we should say "oh well" and be satisfied with the way this defense is performing? I say "No! By God, No!" Then I say, "Aaggaghhh!". IMO, our defense has sucked in very obvious areas ... particularly against the run, safety play, and our tackling is definitely awful. (The fact that tackling sucks league-wide is another discussion and no excuse, in my view.)

We need better players but we don't have them (as far as we know). All Uncle Bob can do is try and play the hand he's dealt and I don't envy him that job. At all.

I don't believe for a moment that people (like me) who are pushing back on the Fire Sutton cry are satisfied with poor defensive play. And I don't think we're making excuses. I try to see things objectively and make a distinction between the cause and the disease.

We have a disease, but the cause isn't "Sutton". And the cure isn't "Fire Sutton". That's the point I try to get across.

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GloryDayz · 10-09-2018, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Personally, I love great defense (I am a Chiefs fan, after all). I am a defensive homer through and through. It's gone, though. The way it used to be is no more and probably never will be again.

The NFL wants lots of scoring (because it equates to better ratings), so offense gets the rules and defense gets the shaft. That's the way it is.

But does that mean we should say "oh well" and be satisfied with the way this defense is performing? I say "No! By God, No!" Then I say, "Aaggaghhh!". IMO, our defense has sucked in very obvious areas ... particularly against the run, safety play, and our tackling is definitely awful. (The fact that tackling sucks league-wide is another discussion and no excuse, in my view.)

We need better players but we don't have them (as far as we know). All Uncle Bob can do is try and play the hand he's dealt and I don't envy him that job. At all.

I don't believe for a moment that people (like me) who are pushing back on the Fire Sutton cry are satisfied with poor defensive play. And I don't think we're making excuses. I try to see things objectively and make a distinction between the cause and the disease.

We have a disease, but the cause isn't "Sutton". And the cure isn't "Fire Sutton". That's the point I try to get across.

FAX

I'm not asking for the #1 D, I never said that, but we're getting a recurring bottom feeder instead.

htismaqe · 10-09-2018, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I'm not asking for the #1 D, I never said that, but we're getting a recurring bottom feeder instead.

Nope.

Not a recurring bottom feeder. This year is the first they've been in the lowest quarter of defensive percentages, and even then it's only in yardage.

In case you haven't noticed, the entire NFL is giving up huge chunks of yardage.

GloryDayz · 10-09-2018, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Nope.

Not a recurring bottom feeder. This year is the first they've been in the lowest quarter of defensive percentages, and even then it's only in yardage.

In case you haven't noticed, the entire NFL is giving up huge chunks of yardage.

I guess 32nd out of 32 means little. Right? Dead last is the new middle of the pack...

htismaqe · 10-09-2018, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I guess 32nd out of 32 means little. Right? Dead last is the new middle of the pack...

That's 5 games into a single year.

You said "recurring". You do know what the definition of "recurring" is, right?

GloryDayz · 10-09-2018, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's 5 games into a single year.

You said "recurring". You do know what the definition of "recurring" is, right?

OK, enjoy our defense... I'll keep getting nervous whenever "Sutton's kids" take to the turf... They'll get better, that's the only direction to they have right now.

**The Franchise** · 10-09-2018, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

OK, enjoy our defense... I'll keep getting nervous whenever "Sutton's kids" take to the turf... They'll get better, that's the only direction to they have right now.

And when they do get better.....you'll still bitch.

htismaqe · 10-09-2018, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

OK, enjoy our defense... I'll keep getting nervous whenever "Sutton's kids" take to the turf... They'll get better, that's the only direction to they have right now.

Again, you prove my point.

I don't "enjoy" this defense. At all.

I'm just not interested in finding a scapegoat in lieu of actually fixing the problem.

FAX · 10-09-2018, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I'm not asking for the #1 D, I never said that, but we're getting a recurring bottom feeder instead.

I never said you said that before you said that and I still haven't said it.

Are we "bottom feeders"? Maybe. Maybe not.

On the other hand, if the fishkeeper has nothing but Plaice in his aquarium because all his Fantail Guppy's fins fell off, what's a guy supposed to do?

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