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Old 04-30-2016, 07:47 PM  
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Chiefs press conference on Tyreek Hill
Starting a whole new thread about this because I think it's a pretty important to get the justification and story from the people who made the pick. Was posted in the original thread, but I know it's going to get lost in the still vibrant discussion.

Basically, Dorsey would normally let his scout team handle questions about the last day so he can do UDFA stuff, but he felt he needed to address the press and media about it before too many stories got carried away. So they spent basically a full 20 minutes discussing the morality of picking somebody like Hill.

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/v...c-90e1d8adc228

For people who don't really care to listen, Dorsey and Reid basically give a single answer: "We've done our homework, so please trust us."

Props go to Terez Paylor for asking the tough and pointed questions about this. He's got some balls as a journalist that I've never seen out of the KC Star.
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Old 04-30-2016, 09:38 PM   #46
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I'm not thrilled about the pick, I've said as much in the thread. But I can't bring myself to cast this guy to ****, even though he probably deserves it because I can't guarantee I wouldn't do the same thing. Women be crazy man.
Condemn him to hell, second chances ---- regardless where you stand, do you really want him playing ball for your favorite team? When he returns a punt for a TD and is cheered like a hero.....how good is that going to feel? Hell, when he was picked, the NFL channel guys barely acknowledged it. I was glad, didn't want him to get that recognition.
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I know it is inexcusable. I know it is unforgivable. I don't think I'd ever do anything like that. But I know my sister, who's a piece of work can drive me to say things I don't mean. Now, I know that saying shit, not even to her face, is a billion or so miles from punching a pregnant chick, but the fact remains, the she makes me do shit I wouldn't normally do.

I'm not thrilled about the pick, I've said as much in the thread. But I can't bring myself to cast this guy to ****, even though he probably deserves it because I can't guarantee I wouldn't do the same thing. Women be crazy man.
Yeah pregnant women typically have raging hormones and can go crazy. It's typical and they can't control that.

Doesn't mean you should harm them and your unborn child that didn't do shit.
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Old 04-30-2016, 09:41 PM   #48
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Frankly, I don't know how you can push all the family in the locker room crap then take a guy that's done something like that
That is a very good point. It would really suck to unwind the good thing we have going.

If that were to happen, it may very well spell the end for Dorsey and Reid. Wouldn't that be some shit. Over the 5th round pick?
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That is a very good point. It would really suck to unwind the good thing we have going.

If that were to happen, it may very well spell the end for Dorsey and Reid. Wouldn't that be some shit. Over the 5th round pick?
Yep.

Especially for a guy like Charles who had to go thru all that with Belcher.

Not a fan.
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Old 04-30-2016, 09:50 PM   #50
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Condemn him to hell, second chances ---- regardless where you stand, do you really want him playing ball for your favorite team? When he returns a punt for a TD and is cheered like a hero.....how good is that going to feel? Hell, when he was picked, the NFL channel guys barely acknowledged it. I was glad, didn't want him to get that recognition.
Not really. He's probably a piece of shit. But I'm not naive enough to think that we have 53 "good guys." The NFL doesn't have near the talent if character eliminates dudes from playing in the league.

You never know, there are probably some guys that would have done the same thing if they were in the same situation, and we still cheer for them.

I'm not fond of the pick, but I'm also not going to pretend that we haven't cheered for dudes like this.

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Yeah pregnant women typically have raging hormones and can go crazy. It's typical and they can't control that.

Doesn't mean you should harm them and your unborn child that didn't do shit.
Absolutely not. My wife, when she was pregnant hardly ever even irritated me, much less tried me. And this guy probably isn't one I'd want to sit and have beers with. But it's naive to think the league is devoid of guys like this.
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Old 04-30-2016, 09:53 PM   #51
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This. I'd be insane if someone abused my daughter.

But she's 2. In my eyes she can do no wrong. I'm sure this chick was a ****. They usually are. I haven't been around too much crazy, but my sister is a piece of work and I know things can get out of hand fast and she can drive otherwise reasonable humans off the edge.

What he did was inexcusable. Especially if he was beating on his kid. But we'll never know the whole story. Hell maybe he just found out it's not his kid.

I can't guarantee that I wouldn't do something stupid in some of the situations these guys are faced with. So I certainly won't be damning this guy to hell for eternity.
**** him. I dont give a shit what the circumstances are you do not hit a woman ever. You do not punch a pregnant woman in the stomach, you do not chokehold a woman. This guy is an abuser and a scumball and if the Chiefs are lucky they find a way to eject this garbage and soon.
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Old 04-30-2016, 09:54 PM   #52
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Dude, how men or boys have you been around that choked out another DUDE while punching him?

For me, it's zero.

And this woman was pregnant.

**** him.
Choked her out? The exaggerations of this story just keep getting worse.
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**** him. I dont give a shit what the circumstances are you do not hit a woman ever. You do not punch a pregnant woman in the stomach, you do not chokehold a woman. This guy is an abuser and a scumball and if the Chiefs are lucky they find a way to eject this garbage and soon.
Are you sure he punched her in the stomach? Are you sure he punched her in the face?
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**** him. I dont give a shit what the circumstances are you do not hit a woman ever. You do not punch a pregnant woman in the stomach, you do not chokehold a woman. This guy is an abuser and a scumball and if the Chiefs are lucky they find a way to eject this garbage and soon.
I'm in no way defending him. But I'm certainly not going to condemn him as I'm certainly not without sin. I'm also not going to sit here and think these dudes aren't peppered throughout the league.
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Not really. He's probably a piece of shit. But I'm not naive enough to think that we have 53 "good guys." The NFL doesn't have near the talent if character eliminates dudes from playing in the league.

You never know, there are probably some guys that would have done the same thing if they were in the same situation, and we still cheer for them.

I'm not fond of the pick, but I'm also not going to pretend that we haven't cheered for dudes like this.



Absolutely not. My wife, when she was pregnant hardly ever even irritated me, much less tried me. And this guy probably isn't one I'd want to sit and have beers with. But it's naive to think the league is devoid of guys like this.
Proven dudes like this are being blacklisted now for shit like this. The league is taking a hard ass line against DV now and I wouldn't buy into a DV case.

Why take a beating for an unknown?
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True, but this is awkward when you tout drafting guys of character.
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Proven dudes like this are being blacklisted now for shit like this. The league is taking a hard ass line against DV now and I wouldn't buy into a DV case.

Why take a beating for an unknown?
That I can agree with. I wouldn't have done it. And like I said before, if this were to happen to go south in the locker room, it could cost these dudes their jobs.

ESPECIALLY if this dude is pegged as ONLY a returner. Holy shit man. For a returner? If this were Charles (thank God it's not, it's easy to love that guy) you can look at the risks. The marginal decrease from this guy to the next returner couldn't be that much.
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