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Old 12-09-2018, 11:37 PM  
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Ravens cry foul over noncall on final play of loss to Chiefs

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As Ravens quarterback Robert Griffin III dropped back to pass on what proved to be the final play of Sunday’s game, the odds were not good.

The Ravens were down a field goal in overtime. Starting quarterback Lamar Jackson was out with an ankle injury. Under two minutes remained. The team faced a fourth-and-22 from its 41-yard line. According to ESPN, the Kansas City Chiefs’ win probability was over 79 percent.

But after the pass fell incomplete and the 27-24 overtime loss was sealed, the Ravens were unhappy the game hadn’t lasted at least a play longer. Coach John Harbaugh, wide receiver Willie Snead IV and Griffin said the officials missed a pass-interference penalty on Chiefs cornerback and Baltimore native Kendall Fuller.

The penalty would’ve produced an automatic Ravens first down and kept alive their hopes for a game-tying field goal or game-winning touchdown.

“Yeah, I saw it,” Harbaugh said. “I think you guys should write what you see. You want us to get up here and criticize the officiating. You saw the officiating all day. You know what it was. You should write what you see. You don’t get fined for it, right?” (Coaches are subject to NFL fines for criticism of the officiating.)

Griffin said he didn’t have a chance to warm up before entering the game facing a third-and-22. His first throw was an incompletion, and after Jackson did not return to the huddle, the team’s third-string quarterback dropped back one final time.

He targeted Snead, running an out-breaking route close to the line to gain. “I was like, ‘I got a chance here,’ ” Snead recalled thinking. Had he made a sixth catch Sunday, the reception might have come up just short of the 37-yard line he needed to reach.

But he said he felt premature contact from Fuller, and Griffin saw the same.

“I mean, of course I did,” said Snead, who had a team-high 61 yards. “I thought that. At the end of the day, it’s out of my control. I got to catch the ball, but I felt like I would’ve been short anyways, but at the end of the day, there was contact. But it is what it is. You just got to learn from it and move on.”

He added: “There were calls we could’ve got all over the game, but at the end of the day, it came down to that play. I didn’t get the call. At the end of the day, I didn’t get the catch.”

Griffin, who said he hadn’t been able to watch a replay of the coverage, blamed himself for not throwing a better pass. But he pointed to the Ravens’ indignant sideline reaction as a reflection of his own perception of the noncall.

“I felt like Willie ran a great route and the DB got there a little early, and they didn't call it,” Griffin said. “It makes me feel a little bad. I feel like I let the team down in that situation. I was ready to go and I tried to do the best I could at that time. Just wish I could've done more."
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:00 AM   #136
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Crabtree pushes off all the time to create separation for himself. He pushed off when he was called for it again yesterday. How hard he pushed off is irrelevant, he still did it. It gained him enough separation to catch the ball and ensure the defender couldn't stop it. It's OPI all day long. The unfortunate truth is the NFL doesn't call OPI but 1% of the time it's actually committed, which is what causes bullshit to begin with. I wouldn't care as much if they didn't call DPI 99% of the time.

Fuller got away with DPI by the way and I was just waiting for the flag. Chiefs caught a rare break. The Ravens' dipshit fans should really watch some KC games before having the balls to think that KC gets calls in their favor regularly.
Case in point: The Raiders game from last year where they called every defensive penalty on us until Crabtree pushed off to catch the game winning TD.

Kelce tried that exact same thing this season and got called for OPI.
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Old 12-10-2018, 11:03 AM   #137
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The play easily could have been called either way at game speed. I held my breath when it happened because as a Chief fan I expected it to be called.
The stadium held its breath.

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Yes, that's what NFL football has been reduced to. A game ending pass-breakup and the entire stadium took a beat to celebrate because 70,000 people were staring at the field trying to find some laundry...
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Old 12-10-2018, 12:10 PM   #138
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The grabby and physical Ravens are whining about not getting a pass interference call?

Yeah, I'm here for that.

I'm also here to tell them to go **** themselves. They hit our QB late a few times, didn't get flagged. They held Tyreek on a double move, didn't get called.
Forgot about that blatant no-call. That was in a critical situation as well near the end of the game.
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Old 12-10-2018, 01:22 PM   #139
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4th and 22 and he’s whining about not getting a ticky tack penalty to bail his team out? That seems pretty laughable considering they hit Mahomes late all day long and never got called for it. Harbaugh can suck it long and hard.
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Old 12-10-2018, 01:23 PM   #140
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Forgot about that blatant no-call. That was in a critical situation as well near the end of the game.
Nope, it was the first series. At least the one he’s referring to.
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Old 12-10-2018, 01:29 PM   #141
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How many late hits did they get on Mahomes with no flags?
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Old 12-10-2018, 01:34 PM   #142
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How many late hits did they get on Mahomes with no flags?
I'd say at least 3 if not 4 or 5. They got flagged once.
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Old 12-10-2018, 01:37 PM   #143
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What about hte blatant PI on Hill that ended our first drive?

He ****ing grabbed him

Edit: Already been mentioned.

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Old 12-10-2018, 03:37 PM   #144
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I just love the fact that we're arguing from this side of the score/win rather than the other side as has happened so many times through the years.
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It was a clean play, and no way is it going to get called in that situation anyway.

But, we should be self aware enough to know that CP would be melting down about massive league-wide conspiracies to keep the Chiefs down if the situation had been reversed.
It was not a clean play....contact was made and the db had both hands on him prior to receiving the pass. Why is it any different just because of the 'situation'? I was terrified for about 5 seconds after the play to see a flag on the play and it was a horrible feeling and completely unnecessary.

That said, you are right...in that situation, it would have been too obvious and had more people questioning the leagues legitimacy.

It's either bias or incompetence or a little of both, but these types of penalties are not called with any sort of consistency. Yep, KC got the call in their favor...the most penalized team in the league managed to avoid one call that would have obviously changed the game.
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It was not a clean play....contact was made and the db had both hands on him prior to receiving the pass. Why is it any different just because of the 'situation'? I was terrified for about 5 seconds after the play to see a flag on the play and it was a horrible feeling and completely unnecessary.

That said, you are right...in that situation, it would have been too obvious and had more people questioning the leagues legitimacy.

It's either bias or incompetence or a little of both, but these types of penalties are not called with any sort of consistency. Yep, KC got the call in their favor...the most penalized team in the league managed to avoid one call that would have obviously changed the game.
Yeah, but they are not usually going to throw a flag just for having your hands touching the other player. There's always some amount of contact before the ball gets there, and the officials have to make a judgement as to whether it interfered with the receiver's ability to catch the ball. They got that call right.

I don't see a difference between what the Ravens and Ravens fans are doing - crying about a no-call - than what we have made an industry out of on CP, crying about a no-call on almost every play from scrimmage all year long. We on this board are in a very elaborate glass house on this issue.
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it was absolutely pass interference. Don't be silly.

**** em.

How many roughing the passer penalties didn't get called?
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Not one of these was called roughing. Piss off whiners.
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