Chiefs Cleveland Browns and Alex Smith? A closer look -- Terry Pluto - Page 8

oaklandhater · 01-11-2018, 03:37 PM

http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index...x_smith_a.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- As if the Cleveland Browns needed another reason to go after Alex Smith, consider this from Profootballfocus:

"One of the surprises of the season, Smith became the league's most efficient deep thrower, finishing first in adjusted completion percentage and yards while tying for first with 12 touchdowns.

"After generally ranking near the bottom in deep passing attempts in years past, a more aggressive approach had Smith ranked 11th with 12.3 percent of his attempts going deep this season. All told, it helped to pay off as he posted a career-high PFF grade."

I've always considered Smith a "game manager" style quarterback who also has the ability to run for first downs.

At best, I thought his arm strength was average.

Maybe it's average -- but he's finding ways to get the ball downfield to open receivers.

Of course, the Browns would have to secure some better receivers -- another job for new general manager John Dorsey.

It's common knowledge Dorsey likes the 33-year-old Smith. Trading for the veteran quarterback was one of his first moves after taking over the Kansas City Chiefs in 2013.

The Chiefs season ended Saturday after they blew a 21-3 lead to the Tennessee Titans in the AFC Wild Card game. The Titans came back to win, 22-21.

Had the Chiefs advanced deep into the playoffs, they probably would have been more likely to keep Smith.

Instead, they might turn to Patrick Mahomes. He was picked No. 10 in the 2017 draft ... by Dorsey. That was a month before he was fired as general manager of the Chiefs.

The Chiefs have Smith under contract for 2018 for $17 million. Kansas City also has some salary cap problems, another reason Smith could be traded.

Given the Browns have more than $100 million of salary cap room, that's no barrier for them.

The question would be what type of draft picks the Chiefs would want in return.

And Browns fans know, their favorite team has oodles of picks -- including three in the second round of 2018.

WHY SMITH?

Some things to consider about Smith:

1. He is the anti-DeShone Kizer. In the last three years covering 46 games, he has thrown 20 interceptions. Kizer threw 21 interceptions in 15 games this season.

2. Smith has lost six fumbles in the last four years. Kizer lost six fumbles in 15 games this season.

3. Smith has a 50-26 record in five years with the Chiefs. For his career, he is 88-62-1. Is he great? No. Can he win a lot of regular season games? Absolutely!

4. Besides the money, why would the Chiefs deal Smith? He's had problems in the playoffs. He is 1-4 in the postseason. He's not played that poorly: 65 percent completions, nine TDs compared to two interceptions in five games. But the

could not make a real Super Bowl run.

5. Smith has become a victim of rising expectations in Kansas City. The Chiefs were 2-14 the season before he arrived. He helped turn them into a playoff team. But the goal is the Super Bowl, and January has been a cruel month for the Chiefs because of the playoffs.

6. Smith is very durable. He has missed only four games in five years with the Chiefs.

7. Smith would give the Browns an experienced, smart quarterback who is coming off the best season of his 12-year career. The Browns have not had a player like him since they returned in 1999.

8. Turnovers destroyed the Browns in several games last season. Adding Smith would cut them dramatically.

9. Several teams will be after Smith. Possible places for him include Denver, Arizona, the New York Jets and perhaps Jacksonville or Buffalo.

10. The more you look at Smith and how he fits with the Browns, the more attractive he becomes in an orange helmet.

Hammock Parties · 01-13-2018, 04:59 PM

Look at those dead eyes.

NJChiefsFan · 01-13-2018, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Browns fans don't want him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Browns/comm...a_closer_look/

It's hard to take these posts seriously from you considering how you manipulate at times. Who knows what posts in favor of Smith coming to CLE you skipped over. Also, are 3 random posts from Browns fans really a relevant sample size?

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Why would the Chiefs have interest in Keenum? Am I reading that wrong?

Yeah that was worded poorly. You could even read that as them saying we are interested in Cousins. Both would be false.

NJChiefsFan · 01-13-2018, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's ridiculous that it would make us look dumb. I don't have any expectations mahomes will be winning 14 games next year. The Chiefs will hopefully get a good pick, they'll save $17m, and I would hope invest that in finding good defensive players for a new scheme.

I don't care about winning 9 or 10 or even 14. Alex has shown to have a high floor, but the ceiling is low. I'd rather die shooting for the ceiling than layup and lie down on the floor.

Using 1 year to judge a move to Mahomes is what he will depend on. It's not an honest assessment.

Sassy Squatch · 01-13-2018, 05:14 PM

So if the offer is a mid-late first or the 2 lower second rounders from Cleveland which do you prefer?

KChiefs1 · 01-13-2018, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Alex Smith in a Browns jersey? Reunion with John Dorsey could be a good fit

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/p...at-quarterback

https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/01/1...ck-alex-smith/

Alex Smith can be the answer at quarterback for the Browns

2 more Alex smith to the Browns articles

Love it.

DRM08 · 01-13-2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

So if the offer is a mid-late first or the 2 lower second rounders from Cleveland which do you prefer?

I prefer 2 picks. Better odds of landing a legit player out of the deal.

Hammock Parties · 01-13-2018, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Also, are 3 random posts from Browns fans really a relevant sample size?

Yes.

The fact there's even ONE Browns fan who doesn't want him is hilarious.

BryanBusby · 01-13-2018, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Browns fans don't want him.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Browns/comm...a_closer_look/

Sure the Browns suck, but they aren't Chiefs fans that are content with total mediocrity.

**Easy 6** · 01-13-2018, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Sure the Browns suck, but they aren't Chiefs fans that are content with total mediocrity.

Browns fans holding out for better than Smith are like Cousin Eddie holding out for a management position

Maybe try winning more than 1 in 32 games before getting too ****ing picky

Their team needs an enema, and Smith is the perfect douche

BryanBusby · 01-13-2018, 05:57 PM

Alex is what they need, but I can't blame them for dreaming big.

King_Chief_Fan · 01-13-2018, 06:27 PM

Smith will not be traded as others know that he can be had for nothing as Chiefs will be forced to cut him if no one deals for him

Broncos pick him up and twice a year Smitty tears up the worthless d the Chiefs have
Because Chiefs

**Easy 6** · 01-13-2018, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Smith will not be traded as others know that he can be had for nothing as Chiefs will be forced to cut him if no one deals for him

That sentiment has been going around quite a bit, but the truth is... we dont HAVE to let him go, he COULD just take a spot on the bench behind Mahomes

It would be an unusual situation to say the least, but the Chiefs do not have to simply cut him loose... and they shouldnt, SOMEONE will eventually cough up SOMETHING

Alex has genuine value, particularly these days

King_Chief_Fan · 01-13-2018, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6

That sentiment has been going around quite a bit, but the truth is... we dont HAVE to let him go, he COULD just take a spot on the bench behind Mahomes

It would be an unusual situation to say the least, but the Chiefs do not have to simply cut him loose... and they shouldnt, SOMEONE will eventually cough up SOMETHING

Sounds right....lets hope something is worth something!

chiefzilla1501 · 01-13-2018, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Sure the Browns suck, but they aren't Chiefs fans that are content with total mediocrity.

I know plenty of browns fans. They know exactly what alex Smith is. They are excited to get him because they are tired of the season being over by week 2. They arent content with mediocrity. They're good fans. But you cannot torture that fan base with another bottom 5 season.
They know Alex Smith is a quick and mediocre fix.

Best22 · 01-13-2018, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Sure the Browns suck, but they aren't Chiefs fans that are content with total mediocrity.

Browns fans would kill to go 9-7 and one and done in the playoffs

And I don't blame 'em

There once was a time where Patriot fans wished for the same

01-11-2018, 03:37 PM
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $7528993	Cleveland Browns and Alex Smith? A closer look -- Terry Pluto http://www.cleveland.com/pluto/index...x_smith_a.html CLEVELAND, Ohio -- As if the Cleveland Browns needed another reason to go after Alex Smith, consider this from Profootballfocus: "One of the surprises of the season, Smith became the league's most efficient deep thrower, finishing first in adjusted completion percentage and yards while tying for first with 12 touchdowns. "After generally ranking near the bottom in deep passing attempts in years past, a more aggressive approach had Smith ranked 11th with 12.3 percent of his attempts going deep this season. All told, it helped to pay off as he posted a career-high PFF grade." I've always considered Smith a "game manager" style quarterback who also has the ability to run for first downs. At best, I thought his arm strength was average. Maybe it's average -- but he's finding ways to get the ball downfield to open receivers. Of course, the Browns would have to secure some better receivers -- another job for new general manager John Dorsey. It's common knowledge Dorsey likes the 33-year-old Smith. Trading for the veteran quarterback was one of his first moves after taking over the Kansas City Chiefs in 2013. The Chiefs season ended Saturday after they blew a 21-3 lead to the Tennessee Titans in the AFC Wild Card game. The Titans came back to win, 22-21. Had the Chiefs advanced deep into the playoffs, they probably would have been more likely to keep Smith. Instead, they might turn to Patrick Mahomes. He was picked No. 10 in the 2017 draft ... by Dorsey. That was a month before he was fired as general manager of the Chiefs. The Chiefs have Smith under contract for 2018 for $17 million. Kansas City also has some salary cap problems, another reason Smith could be traded. Given the Browns have more than $100 million of salary cap room, that's no barrier for them. The question would be what type of draft picks the Chiefs would want in return. And Browns fans know, their favorite team has oodles of picks -- including three in the second round of 2018. WHY SMITH? Some things to consider about Smith: 1. He is the anti-DeShone Kizer. In the last three years covering 46 games, he has thrown 20 interceptions. Kizer threw 21 interceptions in 15 games this season. 2. Smith has lost six fumbles in the last four years. Kizer lost six fumbles in 15 games this season. 3. Smith has a 50-26 record in five years with the Chiefs. For his career, he is 88-62-1. Is he great? No. Can he win a lot of regular season games? Absolutely! 4. Besides the money, why would the Chiefs deal Smith? He's had problems in the playoffs. He is 1-4 in the postseason. He's not played that poorly: 65 percent completions, nine TDs compared to two interceptions in five games. But the could not make a real Super Bowl run. 5. Smith has become a victim of rising expectations in Kansas City. The Chiefs were 2-14 the season before he arrived. He helped turn them into a playoff team. But the goal is the Super Bowl, and January has been a cruel month for the Chiefs because of the playoffs. 6. Smith is very durable. He has missed only four games in five years with the Chiefs. 7. Smith would give the Browns an experienced, smart quarterback who is coming off the best season of his 12-year career. The Browns have not had a player like him since they returned in 1999. 8. Turnovers destroyed the Browns in several games last season. Adding Smith would cut them dramatically. 9. Several teams will be after Smith. Possible places for him include Denver, Arizona, the New York Jets and perhaps Jacksonville or Buffalo. 10. The more you look at Smith and how he fits with the Browns, the more attractive he becomes in an orange helmet.
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