Home and Auto Mansionmania Tournament: Round 1, Heat 12

**Rain Man** · 10-14-2021, 10:38 AM

Mansionmania continues. I'm going to show you the most expensive homes in every state and a few territories, with a few extras thrown in from the largest states to get the tourney up to 64. It'll be a single-elimination tournament.

You will choose among each pair of houses with the following assumptions:

The purchase price for you is $0.
All maintenance, utilities, property taxes, and cleaning is included.
You must live in the home for the rest of your life.
You can't travel more than 100 miles from home (via google maps drive time) other than 1 two-week vacation each year.
You get $250,000 per year as a living allowance
You get an additional living allowance at the cheaper home, which will be valued at 1% of any cost difference annually. I will note this amount in the poll.
You get the furnishings. If unfurnished, you get an allowance that will give you mid-grade furniture in every room.
You get any vehicles in the garage. But only the garage - nothing parked outside.

I encourage you to click on the maps in the listings to see the general location and neighborhood.

Also, I will only enter contestants if they have a sufficient number of photos to judge, as determined by me.

Your entries in this heat are:

Kansas:

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...8_M98451-43225

Delaware:

https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...0_M58295-90451

Kiimo · 10-14-2021, 10:41 AM

lol at the Kansas ranch. 3500 acres of empty space to cover the fact that the house sucks

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2021, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

lol at the Kansas ranch. 3500 acres of empty space to cover the fact that the house sucks

25 photos of scrub grass didn't put you over the top?

Both of these places pretty much suck, but one of them overlooks an ocean.

I suspect I'd be able to live there about 8-10 years before I decide to just walk out into it one day, but it's longer than I'd last on the dark side of the moon there in Kansas.

lawrenceRaider · 10-14-2021, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

lol at the Kansas ranch. 3500 acres of empty space to cover the fact that the house sucks

In the literal middle of no where. There is nothing within 100 miles of that place.

Christ Rainman, you've got to redo this one.

burt · 10-15-2021, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

lol at the Kansas ranch. 3500 acres of empty space to cover the fact that the house sucks

If you think that place sucks, I really wanna see yours!! Y'all are some uppity SOB's!! My problem with the Kansas place is most of the land seems to be crops. If I am wrong, I'd change my vote to KS. because I'd love to have a bison herd. I'm no Beuhler.

But unlike Rain Man, I'd live to live on a strip of beach!

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2021, 10:41 AM

Would you starve to death in that Kansas place? Is there anywhere to even purchase gas or groceries within 100 miles of there?

Christ that's desolate. Just...no.

I'd rather live in Guam.

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2021, 10:48 AM

Before I continue badmouthing it - have we confirmed that it's not actually Buehler's place? Because I'd feel kinda bad if it were.

I mean - not TOO bad...because if he lives there, he's already dead inside.

**Rain Man** · 10-14-2021, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Before I continue badmouthing it - have we confirmed that it's not actually Buehler's place? Because I'd feel kinda bad if it were.

I mean - not TOO bad...because if he lives there, he's already dead inside.

If he doesn't live there, I think he's next door.

I actually kind of like western Kansas. But for the rest of my life? It takes a better man than me to drive that far to a restaurant.

**Buehler445** · 10-14-2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Before I continue badmouthing it - have we confirmed that it's not actually Buehler's place? Because I'd feel kinda bad if it were.

I mean - not TOO bad...because if he lives there, he's already dead inside.

LOL No but it is 65 miles from my place.

This is easy money for me. I can change nothing about my life, add (rough back of the napkin math) $14M worth of irrigated farmland (which from what I'm guessing is more water than any of my current irrigated farms), sell about 2/3 of that equipment, and I probably wouldn't even need to borrow any short term money for inputs. Then air BNB that house and move on.

I'm the only one voting for it, but...lets just say there are extenuating circumstances.

**Bearcat** · 10-14-2021, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

LOL No but it is 65 miles from my place.

Oh, so like five houses down.

**Buehler445** · 10-14-2021, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Oh, so like five houses down.

I actually live in town, dicknose.

It isn't THAT desolate out here. But it kind of is up there. Sharon Springs has about 900 people in it.

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2021, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

LOL No but it is 65 miles from my place.

This is easy money for me. I can change nothing about my life, add (rough back of the napkin math) $14M worth of irrigated farmland (which from what I'm guessing is more water than any of my current irrigated farms), sell about 2/3 of that equipment, and I probably wouldn't even need to borrow any short term money for inputs. Then air BNB that house and move on.

I'm the only one voting for it, but...lets just say there are extenuating circumstances.

Speaking of irrigation, I'm assuming the reason every one of those sections in the satellite image has a massive circle in the middle of it is because of center-pivots?

I knew there were plenty of 'em out there but I didn't realize they were quite that pervasive.

**Buehler445** · 10-14-2021, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Speaking of irrigation, I'm assuming the reason every one of those sections in the satellite image has a massive circle in the middle of it is because of center-pivots?

I knew there were plenty of 'em out there but I didn't realize they were quite that pervasive.

That part of the world is hugely irrigated. In the water table there are like stones, instead of sand, so water flows into wells really easily. It's deep and takes some power to get out, but there are some big ass wells up there. Part of Wallace County is in my GWMD and they're trying to get some restrictions on it up there, but currently the pumping limits up there are 2 Acre Ft/allocated acre. And places up there can hit it.

For reference, my farm is about 30% irrigated, dads is less than 10%. And none of our systems pumped over 12 ac/in (half the allotment) for a lot of years now.

It's definitely different up there.

**Rain Man** · 10-14-2021, 10:51 AM

Whew.

We have two very different contenders here. This is comparing not apples to apples, but rather kumquats to vienna sausages.

Kansas - it would be great to hang out at Buehler's house, so I'll mention that as a positive. The house is pretty nice, and I actually kind of like the plains setting. I've done my share of driving in plains states and I don't mind it at all. On the negative side, I have no interest in owning 3,500 acres of farmland here other than just leasing it to somebody. And is there a restaurant within two hours of this place? I like isolation, but I don't need this much isolation. I'll ask Buehler's thoughts on how much I could make with a lease, because that's a factor here. On the whole, the house is okay but the location is kind of a deal killer given how I'd want to spend my leisure time.

Delaware - The house is nice, but doesn't wow me in any way. And I've never really wanted one of those "walkway to a bunch of sand" beach houses without a tree in sight. I have little interest in being in the house itself. The big positive here is that the house is in a touristy area, so I could wander to one of the beach towns every day for lunch. I did a race in Rehoboth a while back, and it was nice. I didn't fall in love with it, but it was nice.

I dunno. This is a heat where I'm not enthused about either option. It might come down to money, and the Delaware property wins that. I don't know what income the Kansas property would generate, but if it's less than $160,000 a year, then Delaware wins with a noncommittal shrug.

I suspect Kansas can't beat Delaware's income enough to make it worthwhile. I'll go Delaware.

**Buehler445** · 10-14-2021, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Whew.

We have two very different contenders here. This is comparing not apples to apples, but rather kumquats to vienna sausages.

Kansas - it would be great to hang out at Buehler's house, so I'll mention that as a positive. The house is pretty nice, and I actually kind of like the plains setting. I've done my share of driving in plains states and I don't mind it at all. On the negative side, I have no interest in owning 3,500 acres of farmland here other than just leasing it to somebody. And is there a restaurant within two hours of this place? I like isolation, but I don't need this much isolation. I'll ask Buehler's thoughts on how much I could make with a lease, because that's a factor here. On the whole, the house is okay but the location is kind of a deal killer given how I'd want to spend my leisure time.

Delaware - The house is nice, but doesn't wow me in any way. And I've never really wanted one of those "walkway to a bunch of sand" beach houses without a tree in sight. I have little interest in being in the house itself. The big positive here is that the house is in a touristy area, so I could wander to one of the beach towns every day for lunch. I did a race in Rehoboth a while back, and it was nice. I didn't fall in love with it, but it was nice.

I dunno. This is a heat where I'm not enthused about either option. It might come down to money, and the Delaware property wins that. I don't know what income the Kansas property would generate, but if it's less than $160,000 a year, then Delaware wins with a noncommittal shrug.

I suspect Kansas can't beat Delaware's income enough to make it worthwhile. I'll go Delaware.

Under the rental agreement with my landlord that pays nothing except property tax, if the irrigated will yield what it says, nothing for the grass (I can get you something), and a real conservative number on the dryland, I'd be paying you in the neighborhood of 2.2 Million for 2021, plus I could probably get you $.1/bu bin rent, that would get you another 24 K. If you were interested in renting the shop, probably 20K ish provided there is water I could get out at Volume.

Let's just say 2.25M for this year.

Looks to me like if you liquidate the equipment, sight unseen, you're looking at another 1.5 -2M

I'd definitely be interested in renting that.

View Poll Results: Which one do you pick?
Kansas + $250,000 annual stipend	13	23.64%
Delaware + $441,000 annual stipend	39	70.91%
Gosh, I can't decide.	3	5.45%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

10-14-2021, 10:38 AM	Topic Starter
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3138491 VARSITY	Mansionmania Tournament: Round 1, Heat 12 Mansionmania continues. I'm going to show you the most expensive homes in every state and a few territories, with a few extras thrown in from the largest states to get the tourney up to 64. It'll be a single-elimination tournament. You will choose among each pair of houses with the following assumptions: The purchase price for you is $0. All maintenance, utilities, property taxes, and cleaning is included. You must live in the home for the rest of your life. You can't travel more than 100 miles from home (via google maps drive time) other than 1 two-week vacation each year. You get $250,000 per year as a living allowance You get an additional living allowance at the cheaper home, which will be valued at 1% of any cost difference annually. I will note this amount in the poll. You get the furnishings. If unfurnished, you get an allowance that will give you mid-grade furniture in every room. You get any vehicles in the garage. But only the garage - nothing parked outside. I encourage you to click on the maps in the listings to see the general location and neighborhood. Also, I will only enter contestants if they have a sufficient number of photos to judge, as determined by me. Your entries in this heat are: Kansas: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...8_M98451-43225 Delaware: https://www.realtor.com/realestatean...0_M58295-90451
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10-14-2021, 10:41 AM	#2
Kiimo MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Studio City, CA Casino cash: $3898742	lol at the Kansas ranch. 3500 acres of empty space to cover the fact that the house sucks
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10-14-2021, 10:41 AM	#6
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2819099	Would you starve to death in that Kansas place? Is there anywhere to even purchase gas or groceries within 100 miles of there? Christ that's desolate. Just...no. I'd rather live in Guam. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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10-14-2021, 10:48 AM	#7
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2819099	Before I continue badmouthing it - have we confirmed that it's not actually Buehler's place? Because I'd feel kinda bad if it were. I mean - not TOO bad...because if he lives there, he's already dead inside. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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10-14-2021, 10:51 AM	#14
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3138491 VARSITY	Whew. We have two very different contenders here. This is comparing not apples to apples, but rather kumquats to vienna sausages. Kansas - it would be great to hang out at Buehler's house, so I'll mention that as a positive. The house is pretty nice, and I actually kind of like the plains setting. I've done my share of driving in plains states and I don't mind it at all. On the negative side, I have no interest in owning 3,500 acres of farmland here other than just leasing it to somebody. And is there a restaurant within two hours of this place? I like isolation, but I don't need this much isolation. I'll ask Buehler's thoughts on how much I could make with a lease, because that's a factor here. On the whole, the house is okay but the location is kind of a deal killer given how I'd want to spend my leisure time. Delaware - The house is nice, but doesn't wow me in any way. And I've never really wanted one of those "walkway to a bunch of sand" beach houses without a tree in sight. I have little interest in being in the house itself. The big positive here is that the house is in a touristy area, so I could wander to one of the beach towns every day for lunch. I did a race in Rehoboth a while back, and it was nice. I didn't fall in love with it, but it was nice. I dunno. This is a heat where I'm not enthused about either option. It might come down to money, and the Delaware property wins that. I don't know what income the Kansas property would generate, but if it's less than $160,000 a year, then Delaware wins with a noncommittal shrug. I suspect Kansas can't beat Delaware's income enough to make it worthwhile. I'll go Delaware. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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