Peterson Waffling on Surtain - Page 3

BigChiefFan · 02-28-2005, 10:06 AM

Posted on Mon, Feb. 28, 2005

Surtain

Chiefs consider Surtain

By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star

The Chiefs' search for a cornerback has started with Miami's Patrick Surtain but won't necessarily end there.

President/general manager Carl Peterson talked with the Dolphins this weekend about a trade for Surtain, a two-time Pro Bowler. Complicating matters is that Surtain's contract is heading into its final season and the Chiefs won't make a trade without having him signed for the long term.

Three other veteran cornerbacks, Tennessee's Samari Rolle, Washington's Fred Smoot and Seattle's Ken Lucas, are also on the Chiefs' priority list. Rolle, a favorite of defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, was released recently by the Titans in a cost-cutting move.

He could visit with the Chiefs as soon as Wednesday.

“It's in the hands of Miami,'' Peterson said of Surtain. “They're looking for a draft choice, and it's also in the hands of the agent, who's looking for a big contract. We've talked, but the number is too big. If it gets reasonable, then fine.''

Surtain played seven seasons for Miami and played in the Pro Bowl after the 2002 and 2003 seasons.

“He's an All-Pro cornerback,'' Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said. “He can play all the variations of coverage. He's a very talented guy. But there's other guys out there, too, and I just don't know right now just how this is going to end up.''

Ty Law, released by New England last week, is not on the Chiefs' priority list, though that could change. Law missed the last half of last season because of a foot injury.

“There's mixed feelings about him,'' Vermeil said. “He's a high-quality player but he's got a long way to go on his rehab.''

The Chiefs plan to tender contract offers to three of their potential restricted free agents. Linebacker Scott Fujita, wide receiver Marc Boerigter and safety Shaunard Harts will receive one-year offers for $656,000.

Each offer would give the Chiefs the right of first refusal if the player signs an offer sheet with another club.

The Chiefs weren't planning to offer a contract to a fourth potential restricted free agent, fullback Omar Easy.

Randy Covitz of The Star's sports staff contributed to this report.

nmt1 · 02-28-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Talking to the agents, doesn't equate to anything substantial other than there is some interest from the Chiefs. You act as if because our FO is talking to some agents about their clients that the Chiefs have somehow done their job. They haven't. Landing the players is what would make me happy. Talking to their agents doesn't do jack shit for me.

But you said in another thread that we do nothing but take a ho hum approach every season. The Chiefs are actually talking to the agents of the guys you would like them to sign but you're still pissing and moaning about it. Have a little patience. All I'm saying is that it's a good sign that they're talking about it.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 02-28-2005, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Carl needs to be aware it's going to cost us at least $10 million signing bonus for all of the FA corners that can improve our team.

Something tells me Carl is aware of this.... and probably a lot of other things we have no clue about.

If we again fail to get anything done over the course of this off season to improve the defense, then I will again call for Carl's head as well as Dick's. In the meantime, this is all part of the process and it has just begun. I don't think we should be too concerned just yet. They have said they realize the teams short comings and they intend to do something about it. I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now that that is true. If they fail in the end.... then we'll call them out at that time.

...jmo.

teedubya · 02-28-2005, 10:35 AM

im not even convinced that Surtain is the right player for us... with his knee problems and his playing in a zone for last 3 years. Im almost sold on Smoot.

BigChiefFan · 02-28-2005, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nmt1

But you said in another thread that we do nothing but take a ho hum approach every season. The Chiefs are actually talking to the agents of the guys you would like them to sign but you're still pissing and moaning about it. Have a little patience. All I'm saying is that it's a good sign that they're talking about it.

We usually do take that ho-hum approach, but given Carl and Dick both only have one year on their contracts and the tone of the fans-the heat is on. I haven't pissed and moaned about this at all, I've said that I think a sense of urgency is important so we don't lose out on other potential FAs that could help improve our team, I know you defend everything in the FO, but I won't apologize for wanting to see my team give their all and land some quality players this off-season.

**alanm** · 02-28-2005, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

I guess come March 3rd, we can declare the season officially over?

That's the conclusion I come to. According to some on this board, if we don't spend $30 million of cap money on a couple of defensive players our season is over.

**alanm** · 02-28-2005, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Of course not. Carl is the debbil and teh front office is funnelling all that unused cap money to Al Queda.

I knew there was something fishy about this organization.

Eleazar · 02-28-2005, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I haven't pissed and moaned about this at all,

**mlyonsd** · 02-28-2005, 10:55 AM

Since Denver proved last year that a quality corner was the answer I think we should get two or three.

Mr. Laz · 02-28-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

How is Peterson waffling?

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it's also in the hands of the agent, who's looking for a big contract. We've talked, but the number is too big. If it gets reasonable, then fine

i'd say that's a waffle ... at least a re-evaluation

|Zach| · 02-28-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

No we can all declare everything hunkydunky in Chiefland. We don't need any FAs. We don't need to improve on defense. We don't need any fans in the seats that have an opinion.

It's amazing how some of you can find fault in those that actually want their team to improve.

KCTitus · 02-28-2005, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

It's amazing how some of you can find fault in those that actually want their team to improve.

I find fault with your logic...CP statements are far from waffling.

BigChiefFan · 02-28-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lazarASS

i'd say that's a waffle ... at least a re-evaluation

Thank you-someboy who knows what waffling is.

KCTitus · 02-28-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lazarASS

i'd say that's a waffle ... at least a re-evaluation

Is there a quote of Peterson saying something to the effect they are going to sign Surtain regardless of price? If so, then it would be a waffle, otherwise it's a simple negotiation.

BigChiefFan · 02-28-2005, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

I find fault with your logic...CP statements are far from waffling.

Why doesn't that surprise me? Let's not get into it today. I know your thoughts, you know mine. Let's leave it at.

BigChiefFan · 02-28-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

So I'll put you down as everything is great in Chiefland, then?

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BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	Peterson Waffling on Surtain Posted on Mon, Feb. 28, 2005 Surtain Chiefs consider Surtain By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star The Chiefs' search for a cornerback has started with Miami's Patrick Surtain but won't necessarily end there. President/general manager Carl Peterson talked with the Dolphins this weekend about a trade for Surtain, a two-time Pro Bowler. Complicating matters is that Surtain's contract is heading into its final season and the Chiefs won't make a trade without having him signed for the long term. Three other veteran cornerbacks, Tennessee's Samari Rolle, Washington's Fred Smoot and Seattle's Ken Lucas, are also on the Chiefs' priority list. Rolle, a favorite of defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, was released recently by the Titans in a cost-cutting move. He could visit with the Chiefs as soon as Wednesday. “It's in the hands of Miami,'' Peterson said of Surtain. “They're looking for a draft choice, and it's also in the hands of the agent, who's looking for a big contract. We've talked, but the number is too big. If it gets reasonable, then fine.'' Surtain played seven seasons for Miami and played in the Pro Bowl after the 2002 and 2003 seasons. “He's an All-Pro cornerback,'' Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said. “He can play all the variations of coverage. He's a very talented guy. But there's other guys out there, too, and I just don't know right now just how this is going to end up.'' Ty Law, released by New England last week, is not on the Chiefs' priority list, though that could change. Law missed the last half of last season because of a foot injury. “There's mixed feelings about him,'' Vermeil said. “He's a high-quality player but he's got a long way to go on his rehab.'' The Chiefs plan to tender contract offers to three of their potential restricted free agents. Linebacker Scott Fujita, wide receiver Marc Boerigter and safety Shaunard Harts will receive one-year offers for $656,000. Each offer would give the Chiefs the right of first refusal if the player signs an offer sheet with another club. The Chiefs weren't planning to offer a contract to a fourth potential restricted free agent, fullback Omar Easy. Randy Covitz of The Star's sports staff contributed to this report.
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