Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 114

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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ayleswbj · 05-13-2013, 03:42 PM

It seems the regime believes in Smith and doing everything to help him, THey just hired Chris Ault!! Dam good Hire!!

MagicHef · 05-13-2013, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

The INTs seem very high... but otherwise, yes. He'll probably have more yards under Reid too.

He threw 12 INTs in 372 attempts in 2009. 17 in 560 attempts (35x16) doesn't seem like a reach.

Unless you're saying he'll miss too much time to throw that many attempts.

**BossChief** · 05-13-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

To say he's injury prone is spot-****ing on.

80 games played in 7 seasons. 11.4 per year.

Last I checked, the NFL plays 16 games per season.

So Alex Smith is missing over 4 games PER SEASON.

Only on CP can a guy miss 25% of his games and people say that the injury prone label is "kinda outawhack".

Or would you rather point out that he's missed games because he's been benched for scrubs like Shaun Hill?

You didn't include the year he missed to injury.

He was drafted in 2005...8 seasons.

70 games started.

8.75 games started per year.

ayleswbj · 05-13-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

So he's either been injured or not good enough to start.

Sounds like a sound 2 2nd round pick investment.

Like i said before, its been almost 5 years with the shoulder. What more proof do you need that its far behind him? You need to turn the page man, your living on these things that happened back 6 7 years ago. As of late his play is the reason they Chiefs gave a second round pick. Do you think they would have done this had he continued the same path as 06 07 08? no way, he is here because of his play from 09-12. That is why he is a Chief. I have no idea if its gonna work out, we were 2-14 for gods sake. I sure hope for the best though.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-13-2013, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

You didn't include the year he missed to injury.

He was drafted in 2005...8 seasons.

70 games started.

8.75 games started per year.

You're right. My mistake.

So he's missed damn near half of his career due to injury or being benched behind scrubs not named Kaepernick.

jd1020 · 05-13-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj

Like i said before, its been almost 5 years with the shoulder. What more proof do you need that its far behind him? You need to turn the page man, your living on these things that happened back 6 7 years ago. As of late his play is the reason they Chiefs gave a second round pick. Do you think they would have done this had he continued the same path as 06 07 08? no way, he is here because of his play from 09-12. That is why he is a Chief. I have no idea if its gonna work out, we were 2-14 for gods sake. I sure hope for the best though.

I dont care how good his numbers look on paper the last 2 years.

He wasn't an integral part of their offense which is why he was benched midway through last season because you can't ask him to be THE guy. He's trash.

Sandy Vagina · 05-13-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

He threw 12 INTs in 372 attempts in 2009. 17 in 560 attempts (35x16) doesn't seem like a reach.

Unless you're saying he'll miss too much time to throw that many attempts.

Different guy now. He won't force that many INTs, is what I am predicting. I was looking at the numbers offered, and I feel 17 INTs should be more like 12. Alex calculates risk, and won't force that many INTs, IMHO. Hopefully his targets won't have a Crabtree-like start and bobble up a bunch of free INTs that should have been caught. That was painful.

ayleswbj · 05-13-2013, 04:00 PM

Um im sorry to have to say this, but that may be funniest thing ive ever heard. You just said the starting Qb of an NFL team is not an integral part of the offense. I have no more words for you.

jd1020 · 05-13-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj

Um im sorry to have to say this, but that may be funniest thing ive ever heard. You just said the starting Qb of an NFL team is not an integral part of the offense. I have no more words for you.

When you count on a top 2 defense, a running offensive attack, and <5 yard dump offs then you better damn well believe the QB is not an integral part of that offense. Any practice squad QB in the league could do what Alex Smith did the last 2 seasons.

For **** sakes... Matt Cassel did it BETTER on an inferior team.

Kaepernick · 05-13-2013, 04:06 PM

Jim Harbaugh resurrected Alex Smith's career. Smith was on the QB trash heap headed for career backup status before Harbaugh's coaching made him a serivceable starting QB. Now Alex is around mid pack in the 15-20 range of QBs.

Messier · 05-13-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I never said that.
Posted via Mobile Device

What? I'm not saying you did.

ayleswbj · 05-13-2013, 04:11 PM

its called being on a good balanced team, the niners do not have the philosophy of throwing 40 times a game and never will under harbaugh. The QB is the most important postion on the field and Runs the Offense for you to even suggest he in not integral is just moronic. If any practice squad player could do it they why arent they? If any practice squader can do it then just throw Bray out there and see what you get

jd1020 · 05-13-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ayleswbj

its called being on a good balanced team, the niners do not have the philosophy of throwing 40 times a game and never will under harbaugh. The QB is the most important postion on the field and Runs the Offense for you to even suggest he in not integral is just moronic. If any practice squad player could do it they why arent they? If any practice squader can do it then just throw Bray out there and see what you get

Why don't you let Trent Dilfer know how integral he was to the Ravens success. He did the same shit Alex has been doing.

Congratulations Ravens! You have just won the Super Bowl! What are you going to do now?

....

Cut our QB!

ayleswbj · 05-13-2013, 04:16 PM

Hell yea he resurrected his career, what is wrong with that. He obviously saw something in him. Also coaches , coach. Players play. He can give the guy all the coaching he wants, but the player has to go out there and execute. Dont give coaches to much credit. at the end of the day they are on the sidelines watching like everyone else. Most coaches will say the same

ayleswbj · 05-13-2013, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Why don't you let Trent Dilfer know how integral he was to the Ravens success. He did the same shit Alex has been doing.

Congratulations Ravens! You have just won the Super Bowl! What are you going to do now?

....

Cut our QB!

You forgot to highlight the best part, CONGRATULATIONS RAVENS< YOU JUST WON THE SUPERBOWL!

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ayleswbj Starter Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10005287	Um im sorry to have to say this, but that may be funniest thing ive ever heard. You just said the starting Qb of an NFL team is not an integral part of the offense. I have no more words for you.
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ayleswbj Starter Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10005287	its called being on a good balanced team, the niners do not have the philosophy of throwing 40 times a game and never will under harbaugh. The QB is the most important postion on the field and Runs the Offense for you to even suggest he in not integral is just moronic. If any practice squad player could do it they why arent they? If any practice squader can do it then just throw Bray out there and see what you get
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ayleswbj Starter Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10005287	Hell yea he resurrected his career, what is wrong with that. He obviously saw something in him. Also coaches , coach. Players play. He can give the guy all the coaching he wants, but the player has to go out there and execute. Dont give coaches to much credit. at the end of the day they are on the sidelines watching like everyone else. Most coaches will say the same
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