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Old 06-27-2010, 10:51 AM  
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Another SOCCER thread: Here's what FIFA should do.

1- Keep the three-sub rule for the duration of the game. Allow one extra substitution for over-time.

2- Allow unlimited substitution at halftime.

3- Join the 21st century with video technology. Replays don't have to be for every little dispute or questionable call. Just goals the are disallowed with near obvious bad calls or ref mistakes. Goals that are illegally stopped by D in a rather obvious infraction (remember US/Germany 2002). Use them also in Red-card situations. Kaka should never have been kicked out that last game.

4- Continuing the video tech theme, there should be cameras dedicated to the goal line (as in Tennis' line cameras) to show whether a ball is actually in as a goal or not.

5- Devise a way to severely punish cheap dives, even if it's after a post-match review. Red-card a blatant diver, after the review and make him ineligible for the next game. Better yet, the next two games. (example: the guy who grabbed his face and fell on the ground in 'excruciating' pain after Kaka feather-touched him in the chest.)

Ideas not yet included in the list since I'm not yet convinced:

A- One offside goal per game should be allowed using basically a team coupon?

B- Maybe having two refs each assigned to half a field?

Your thoughts, ideas and arguments not just welcome but encouraged. I will add the ones that convince me to the above list.

Discuss away.
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Old 06-28-2010, 04:04 PM   #31
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See red. I have already covered that. Thanks for the thoughtful reply tho.
Sorry. I got all excited about posting about something I actually know and care about.
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Old 06-28-2010, 04:05 PM   #32
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What is there to remember? By definition of the law there was no foul there. It was a good call.

The defenders hand was down to his side and he did not move it. The ball hit his hand. He did not hit the ball with his hand.

The law states: Deliberate handling of the ball.
If I remember correctly his hand was not exactly by his side. It changed the direction of an otherwise ingoing ball though.
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Old 06-28-2010, 04:08 PM   #33
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Why not make certain calls challengable, and give each coach 2 per game.
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This is where the flow of the game issue legitimately comes in. You cannot stop it. However, after a goal is scored or stopped illegally there is a pause anyway. The replay challenge can work there, IMO.
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Old 06-28-2010, 04:11 PM   #34
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Unlimited subs and ELIMINATE OFFSIDES!!!
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:26 PM   #35
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B- Maybe having two refs each assigned to half a field?y.
I'm pretty sure this has been experimented with and the issue was that both refs became reluctant to make calls and deferred decisions much too often.

Personally I'm down with goal line technology and a post match review for blatant, repeat divers.
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:30 PM   #36
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I'm pretty sure this has been experimented with and the issue was that both refs became reluctant to make calls and deferred decisions much too often.

Personally I'm down with goal line technology and a post match review for blatant, repeat divers.
In the two ref scenario I was thinking each being assigned to one half of the field reducing their running around and the stress of having to referee an entire game. That said, i just kinda threw that one out for discussion. In reality, FIFA should bring in much better refs especially in the biggest dance of them all. Refereeing in this WC has been atrocious. Amateurish, really.
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Old 06-28-2010, 06:41 PM   #37
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The thing is that you can't get rid of offsides without significantly changing how the game is played. And, since that is the case, it will never go away. rReferees just need to pay better attention.
Yeah it would change it, I thought that was the idea of the thread. I believe there are ways to make it work. For example, you could have a rule that nobody on the offense can enter the penalty box before the ball is touched on the offensive side of the field.
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Old 06-28-2010, 07:27 PM   #38
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Get rid of the offsides, or if you feel you have to have it set up lines like hockey, you can't cross it before the ball. Easier to rule on, and would lead to a lot less confusion and bad calls on goals. (Sure it still happens in hockey, but not as often as often as I'm seeing in soccer)
Nothing quite as compelling in all of tv land as soccer played with a neutral zone trap, ugh.
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Old 06-28-2010, 07:59 PM   #39
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No.
No reason? Why is there any sort of rule regarding subs? It's a well-known fact that off sides is THE most important reason why soccer is hated in the U.S. (as if anyone cared).
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Old 06-28-2010, 07:59 PM   #40
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Don't count on FIFA to do anything, they banned replays in the stadium.
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Old 06-28-2010, 08:08 PM   #41
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No reason? Why is there any sort of rule regarding subs? It's a well-known fact that off sides is THE most important reason why soccer is hated in the U.S. (as if anyone cared).
The game wouldn't work without offsides. Why would they have it at all if it wasn't needed.
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Old 06-28-2010, 08:19 PM   #42
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The game wouldn't work without offsides. Why would they have it at all if it wasn't needed.
Of course it would work. It'd work great. 10-8 games instead of 0-0.
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Old 06-28-2010, 08:22 PM   #43
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Of course it would work. It'd work great. 10-8 games instead of 0-0.
No, the game would be boring and terrible. It would be two teams punting to eachother all day. The game would not flow freely.
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Old 06-28-2010, 09:06 PM   #44
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The reaction I have everytime there is a scoring chance is to wait for an offsides call. It overrides my reaction to actually watch the game. God bless the sport, but that is not the reaction you want.
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