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Old 01-11-2023, 12:59 PM   #1
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I don't hate him. I think he's a good LT, he's just not a fit for OUR system. He's still a fantastic run blocker and for teams that run the ball more than we do, he's a great option. Especially considering his age.

Pittsburgh for example, runs the ball way more than we do and as such, he'd be a great fit there. As to why they don't just draft an o lineman with their 1st? I'd think they'd consider doing both. Drafting a guard at 17 while trading for OBJ.
Word is that the commanders want to run the ball. I wonder if a deal could be made for OBJ plus picks for Leno Jr and Payne
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Old 01-12-2023, 07:36 AM   #2
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Word is that the commanders want to run the ball. I wonder if a deal could be made for OBJ plus picks for Leno Jr and Payne

I have floated a deal built around Payne for Brown. I don’t think I’d really want Leno back in that one.

Rather just clear the cap (because you’re going to be paying Payne) and keep the draft chest as full as possible.

Sign Andre Dillard as your speculative T while you try to grab one in the draft.
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Old 01-12-2023, 09:31 AM   #3
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I have floated a deal built around Payne for Brown. I don’t think I’d really want Leno back in that one.

Rather just clear the cap (because you’re going to be paying Payne) and keep the draft chest as full as possible.

Sign Andre Dillard as your speculative T while you try to grab one in the draft.
My thought is that the commanders will not want to maintain Leno and he is a better fit here. Seems like a classic win win if you will. 1 yr for 13m buys the chiefs time to draft and develop or wait for a stronger tackle class next year, if that is the chiefs assessment of the situation. I know that you have more faith in this year's class than the usual media suspects. I can't speak to that because I watched precious little cfb this year.
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Word is that the commanders want to run the ball. I wonder if a deal could be made for OBJ plus picks for Leno Jr and Payne
Conventional wisdom is that Brown is a premium run blocker and weak pass blocker.

For what it's worth (maybe nothing), most metrics indicate that's not the case. In fact, per PFF anyway, he has NEVER had a better run blocking grade than a pass blocking grade in any season in the league.

PFF also says his last 3 years have all been extremely consistent year over year (not game over game). This kinda tells me that OBJ has probably plateaued and largely is what he's gonna be.

We're now looking at a 3K snap sample size of him having about a 76.5 pass blocking grade and 70 run blocking grade. Both starter caliber with a shade towards being a little better pass blocker than run blocker.

Game over game PFF is REALLY bad. But over 3,000 snaps that's probably a meaningful enough sample to matter.
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Old 01-12-2023, 07:12 PM   #5
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Conventional wisdom is that Brown is a premium run blocker and weak pass blocker.

For what it's worth (maybe nothing), most metrics indicate that's not the case. In fact, per PFF anyway, he has NEVER had a better run blocking grade than a pass blocking grade in any season in the league.

PFF also says his last 3 years have all been extremely consistent year over year (not game over game). This kinda tells me that OBJ has probably plateaued and largely is what he's gonna be.

We're now looking at a 3K snap sample size of him having about a 76.5 pass blocking grade and 70 run blocking grade. Both starter caliber with a shade towards being a little better pass blocker than run blocker.

Game over game PFF is REALLY bad. But over 3,000 snaps that's probably a meaningful enough sample to matter.
Think we could get a 2nd for him? Chicago/Pitt/etc.....
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Word is that the commanders want to run the ball. I wonder if a deal could be made for OBJ plus picks for Leno Jr and Payne
Just saw this post. I'd do that trade for Payne and a lower pick. I think that Payne would be a great player to put next to George and a hopefully resigned Jones. The cost would be significant tho as both Payne and Jones would need new deals.

Still it would give us a dominant line. I'd still wanna trade up to land a premier LT in this scenario.
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