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Old 01-07-2021, 12:01 PM  
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***Official 2021 Royals Season Repository Thread***

For all things Royals for the new year.

Free Agent Signings:
Carlos Santana
Mike Minor
Michael Taylor
Ervin Santana

Top 10 Prospects:
1 Bobby Witt Jr., SS
2 Asa Lacy, LHP
3 Daniel Lynch, LHP
4 Jackson Kowar, RHP
5 Erick Pena, OF
6 Nick Loftin, SS
7 Kyle Isbel, OF
8 Khali Lee, OF
9 Jonathan Bowlan, RHP
10 Carlos Hernedez, RHP
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Old 07-06-2021, 10:33 AM   #3331
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@Shauncore: Kumar Rocker, Royals Mocker.

"...they’ll see the player he was more recently (low-90s, living off of pitch execution, fourth starter look) as his floor, with the upside that he returns to (and sustains) peak form as better than their other options" https://twitter.com/fangraphs/status...96000979861508

Wonder what's up with the decreased velocity?
Hold on, Chiefsplanet has told me that Kumar Rocker is the next Cy Young. The next Randy Johnson. There are zero pitchers in the last 40 years coming out of the draft that are better.
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Old 07-06-2021, 10:45 AM
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Old 07-06-2021, 11:32 AM   #3332
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This is exactly the shit I’m talking about with Matheny and Eldred.

Inexcusable that Minor wasn’t prepped with that information and shows Eldred’s laziness and ineffectiveness starkly. (And honestly Grifol’s too, Perez should know that when gameplan ing for the series).

Matheny’s pitcher management in the 7th was also garbage. I know Minor’s pitch count was down, but to let Minor go out and face the middle of the lineup a 3rd time was just stupid.

Letting him face a second batter after giving up the bomb to Casty was stupid.

Letting him not only walk that batter but then walk another before making a move to the pen was stupid.

Matheny. Stupid.

But coaching/managing doesn’t matter!
I agree with this, but doesn't Minor need to be held accountable too? Why is he "taking a pitch off"? Shouldn't he have some familiarity with the tendencies of the hitters? If he's "taking a pitch off," shouldn't it be out of the zone at least?
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Old 07-06-2021, 11:52 AM   #3333
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I agree with this, but doesn't Minor need to be held accountable too? Why is he "taking a pitch off"? Shouldn't he have some familiarity with the tendencies of the hitters? If he's "taking a pitch off," shouldn't it be out of the zone at least?

Absolutely. Comes back to the pitcher room and how accountability is being set and adhered to.

Again, the pitching coach is influential in that. Sets the tone.
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Old 07-06-2021, 04:19 PM   #3334
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Matheny and Eldred need to go. I fear, however, that the problem is systemic. I mean we haven't developed any frontline talent in a very long time. Inexcusable considering we pick near the top of each round all the damned time.
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Old 07-06-2021, 04:49 PM   #3335
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Matheny and Eldred need to go. I fear, however, that the problem is systemic. I mean we haven't developed any frontline talent in a very long time. Inexcusable considering we pick near the top of each round all the damned time.
Which puts the cause of the issue directly in the lap of Dayton Moore.

The rest is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Old 07-06-2021, 05:08 PM   #3336
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Matheny and Eldred need to go. I fear, however, that the problem is systemic. I mean we haven't developed any frontline talent in a very long time. Inexcusable considering we pick near the top of each round all the damned time.

They really struggled once the draft slot went into place. Combine that with some bad injury luck (Zimmer and Mondesi) and making trades (goodbye Manaea, Finnegan) and dropping a pick for signing FA, and there go the 2011-2016 first round slots.

They adjusted the draft strategy after the 2015 disaster (Russell-Watson-Griffin). The 17 draft and 18 draft and 19 draft all have strong returns. They’ve switched up the hitting and pitching development philosophies. Help is on the way/close on the position side (Witt, Melendez, Pratto, Isbel, Rudy Martin should all get cracks at everyday roles in 21 or 22). The pitching wave is starting to arrive.

But they need to adjust to avoid wasting it all.

Eldred
Matheny
Bradway

All of those guys gotta go.

Moore’s personnel department needs a makeover, too. They’ve made good adjustments in the draft recently but some fresh blood can’t hurt, IMO. I’d hate to see Picollo just promoted to GM.

The next 12-18 months will be a good test for John Sherman. I expect Moore to go to bat for his guys and keep Matheny in place, and for Eldred and Bradway to pay for it.
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Old 07-06-2021, 05:15 PM   #3337
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Matheny and Eldred need to go. I fear, however, that the problem is systemic. I mean we haven't developed any frontline talent in a very long time. Inexcusable considering we pick near the top of each round all the damned time.
If Sherman doesn't clean house after this season, we're probably fooked.
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Old 07-06-2021, 07:43 PM   #3338
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Old 07-06-2021, 07:45 PM   #3339
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They really struggled once the draft slot went into place. Combine that with some bad injury luck (Zimmer and Mondesi) and making trades (goodbye Manaea, Finnegan) and dropping a pick for signing FA, and there go the 2011-2016 first round slots.

They adjusted the draft strategy after the 2015 disaster (Russell-Watson-Griffin). The 17 draft and 18 draft and 19 draft all have strong returns. They’ve switched up the hitting and pitching development philosophies. Help is on the way/close on the position side (Witt, Melendez, Pratto, Isbel, Rudy Martin should all get cracks at everyday roles in 21 or 22). The pitching wave is starting to arrive.

But they need to adjust to avoid wasting it all.

Eldred
Matheny
Bradway

All of those guys gotta go.

Moore’s personnel department needs a makeover, too. They’ve made good adjustments in the draft recently but some fresh blood can’t hurt, IMO. I’d hate to see Picollo just promoted to GM.

The next 12-18 months will be a good test for John Sherman. I expect Moore to go to bat for his guys and keep Matheny in place, and for Eldred and Bradway to pay for it.
This remains a disaster I expect Matheny back unless Sherman says **** all
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:36 PM   #3340
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If Sherman doesn't clean house after this season, we're probably fooked.
Yep. This off season is Sherman’s time to shine or lose me for awhile.
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Old 07-06-2021, 08:45 PM   #3341
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:25 PM   #3342
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:28 PM   #3343
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Matheny going with Soler instead of Alberto when we need a hit to RF?
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:30 PM   #3344
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Dumbest sentence of the year. "Now pinch hitting, Jorge Soler."
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