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Old 08-08-2019, 11:04 AM  
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Old 08-09-2019, 10:14 AM   #151
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This signing has far more upside than Breeland.
Breelands peak is better than Claibornes...
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:41 PM   #152
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:42 PM   #153
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so can this piece of shit still play?
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:56 PM   #154
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so can this piece of shit still play?
Probably to the same extent he EVER could.

Which is to say....kinda?

I don't suspect he'll be a major difference maker but he can be a solid depth player. Again, we're not winning a championship because of our defense but if he can prevent a significant fall-off in the secondary in the event of an injury, we can still maintain a defense that's good enough to not sabotage everything else.

That's all that we should really expect from him - anything more than that will be a welcome bonus.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:08 PM   #155
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Nah, if he was all that to your point he would have been signed a long time ago "in spite of" a 4 game suspension. Teams aren't afraid of small suspensions IF the player can just flat out "ball" especially at the CB position. Just saying.
Well...

https://www.nj.com/jets/2019/08/ex-j...-new-team.html

Former Jets cornerback Morris Claiborne, who remains a free agent, is facing a four-game suspension for violating the NFL’s substance-abuse policy, according to NFL Network.

And that essentially explains why a veteran like Claiborne is still available. Claiborne is appealing, and his suspension could be reduced, according to NFL Network.

But in the meantime, teams are mostly steering clear of him, at least until the matter is finalized.



https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...me-suspension/

Cornerback Morris Claiborne remains a free agent and his unavailability for the first weeks of the regular season may have something to do with his inability to land a job.

NFL Media reports that Claiborne is facing a four-game suspension for violating the league’s substance abuse policy.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:48 PM   #156
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CB Josh Norman
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Washington gets: 2020 fifth-round pick

Trent Williams might be the only big name openly campaigning for a move out of Washington, but if his team stumbles out of the gate, things could get ugly fast, whether that means a Jay Gruden dismissal or further roster upheaval. Snyder's front office has reason to purge bloated contracts with Haskins in the fold and the future now a priority, and it's hard to find a contract that fits that category better than Norman's. While the 31-year-old is one of the top names in Washington's secondary, he's set to count almost $30 million against the cap through 2020, and that's after already being demoted to the bench on several occasions.

Kansas City isn't hiding its desperation to upgrade a cornerback group that got toasted week after week in 2018, inking Morris Claiborne to a one-year deal despite the former New York Jets starter expected to serve a four-game suspension. And with loads of cap space entering the season, the Chiefs can afford to take a swing on someone like Norman, who'd likely embrace a change of scenery, would be reunited with former 'Skins teammate Kendall Fuller and benefit from playing alongside a rangy safety like Tyrann Mathieu. Andy Reid has jettisoned outspoken CBs before (see: Marcus Peters), but this risk might be worth it.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/f...s-adding-a-qb/
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CB Josh Norman
Chiefs get: CB Josh Norman
Washington gets: 2020 fifth-round pick

Trent Williams might be the only big name openly campaigning for a move out of Washington, but if his team stumbles out of the gate, things could get ugly fast, whether that means a Jay Gruden dismissal or further roster upheaval. Snyder's front office has reason to purge bloated contracts with Haskins in the fold and the future now a priority, and it's hard to find a contract that fits that category better than Norman's. While the 31-year-old is one of the top names in Washington's secondary, he's set to count almost $30 million against the cap through 2020, and that's after already being demoted to the bench on several occasions.

Kansas City isn't hiding its desperation to upgrade a cornerback group that got toasted week after week in 2018, inking Morris Claiborne to a one-year deal despite the former New York Jets starter expected to serve a four-game suspension. And with loads of cap space entering the season, the Chiefs can afford to take a swing on someone like Norman, who'd likely embrace a change of scenery, would be reunited with former 'Skins teammate Kendall Fuller and benefit from playing alongside a rangy safety like Tyrann Mathieu. Andy Reid has jettisoned outspoken CBs before (see: Marcus Peters), but this risk might be worth it.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/f...s-adding-a-qb/
https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/josh-norman/



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so can this piece of shit still play?
To me, Mo "Or Less" Claiborne seems like one of those guys who just had difficulty transitioning to the NFL game. Both psychologically and physically.

It's like he has periods of time when he's both healthy and mentally "into it" and he plays very well. Other times ...

Maybe he had bad coaching when he entered the league with the Girls.

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Old 08-09-2019, 06:40 PM   #162
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It seems like Claiborne and Breeland are pretty much the same thing.

If everything goes well, they can be good #2 CBs but they come with injury risk and have showed uneven play over the course of their last few years in the league.
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Kinda begs the question, is it worth paying for a top flight guy when you can load up on #2 guys?
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We could definitely use an upgrade of a true #1 CB, but top shelf safety play lessens how much the corners need to do. That should help the young guys we have and maybe help Claiborne thrive in a lesser role.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:22 PM   #165
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Kinda begs the question, is it worth paying for a top flight guy when you can load up on #2 guys?
This is essentially the argument I’ve made in favor of the Watkins signing since day one.

I was much happier with giving Sammy his money than I would have been with paying a guy like Trumaine Johnson or Malcolm Butler.

Those guys aren’t moving the needle much more than someone like Breeland or Claiborne. Not $10M+ better. Yet, someone like Watkins is legitimately talented enough to make a real tangible difference out there when he’s right. And it showed.
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