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Old 10-13-2020, 11:33 AM   #1
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I will send a Facebook message to Geoff Schwartz to see if he knows what's going on.
A clue from his Twitter timeline.
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Old 10-13-2020, 01:49 PM   #2
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Geoff is wrong here. He's only dropping back to the 22 yard line. So he's within his 10 yards or whatever. Also that is not a clean pocket because Fisher gets pushed into the pocket. If Mahomes steps up. Into the pocket Fishers guy is sacking him or Schwartz's guy is gonna force him to leave the pocket anyways and we get the same result. Mahomes is buying himself time by running towards the sideline because no one is open.

Watch that play and tell me that Schwartz didn't just get completely beat and that it's Mahomes' fault. That's insane.

Schwartz needs to stop getting so defensive of little Schwartz.
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Old 10-13-2020, 02:02 PM   #3
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Geoff is wrong here. He's only dropping back to the 22 yard line. So he's within his 10 yards or whatever. Also that is not a clean pocket because Fisher gets pushed into the pocket. If Mahomes steps up. Into the pocket Fishers guy is sacking him or Schwartz's guy is gonna force him to leave the pocket anyways and we get the same result. Mahomes is buying himself time by running towards the sideline because no one is open.

Watch that play and tell me that Schwartz didn't just get completely beat and that it's Mahomes' fault. That's insane.

Schwartz needs to stop getting so defensive of little Schwartz.
Eh, IF Mahomes had just taken a 7 yard drop, Schwartz probably would've been able to engage the rusher. But the fact is that Schwartz never gets his hands on the guy. Is that Patrick's drop or does Schwartz just not get off the snap very well? Maybe a combination of both?

One could say that if Patrick had just stepped up into the pocket from the snap or just not taken a drop, the defender would've had to take a much shallower angle, and Schwartz would've had a much easier time, but I think that's over-thinking it a bit. Patrick isn't prescient, for cripes' sake.
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Old 10-13-2020, 02:03 PM   #4
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Geoff is right and there’s a clear sign: Pat stepped up in the pocket later in the game quite a bit, and he was having success.

So someone on the staff, or Pat himself, adjusted.
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Old 10-13-2020, 08:32 PM   #5
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Geoff is right and there’s a clear sign: Pat stepped up in the pocket later in the game quite a bit, and he was having success.

So someone on the staff, or Pat himself, adjusted.
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Old 10-14-2020, 02:30 AM   #7
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Geoff is right and there’s a clear sign: Pat stepped up in the pocket later in the game quite a bit, and he was having success.

So someone on the staff, or Pat himself, adjusted.
The pocket wasn't really clean although Mahomes is getting skittish about our line play. That DE cuts inside about 3/4 yards deep from the right side. Another guy is coming around the corner on the left side. Mahomes felt the literal "pinch" in the pass rush and bailed.
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The pocket wasn't really clean although Mahomes is getting skittish about our line play. That DE cuts inside about 3/4 yards deep from the right side. Another guy is coming around the corner on the left side. Mahomes felt the literal "pinch" in the pass rush and bailed.
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Top pic is right when Mahomes drops back to his spot 7 yards deep. Pocket is clean for literally 1 second and if he stays put or steps up into the pocket, then he's taking a sack by Fisher's or Schwartz's man. Fishers guy pushed Fisher into the pocket collapsing it and Schwartz's guy is blowing by him. This isn't on Mahomes no matter how much Geoff wants to say it is. If Mahomes tries to step up and to the left of Fischer then the defender just disengages and gets the sack, so Mahomes does the only thing to give his receivers time to get open and that is to drop back and make his way towards the sideline where it's pretty much clean of defenders.

Geoff Schwartz is being a biased clown here and really making himself look like an ass arguing with guys on Twitter.
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Top pic is right when Mahomes drops back to his spot 7 yards deep. Pocket is clean for literally 1 second and if he stays put or steps up into the pocket, then he's taking a sack by Fisher's or Schwartz's man. Fishers guy pushed Fisher into the pocket collapsing it and Schwartz's guy is blowing by him. This isn't on Mahomes no matter how much Geoff wants to say it is. If Mahomes tries to step up and to the left of Fischer then the defender just disengages and gets the sack, so Mahomes does the only thing to give his receivers time to get open and that is to drop back and make his way towards the sideline where it's pretty much clean of defenders.

Geoff Schwartz is being a biased clown here and really making himself look like an ass arguing with guys on Twitter.
If your brother or family member plays in the NFL, you shouldn't be able to take an NFL media job.

You turn into a David Carr assclown.
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Old 10-14-2020, 08:48 AM   #11
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If your brother or family member plays in the NFL, you shouldn't be able to take an NFL media job.

You turn into a David Carr assclown.
Completely agree. David Carr was talking about Derek Carr being elite after Sunday. At least I think it was David. What other idiot would try to convince people Alex Smith lite is elite?
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I said this in the game day thread... Patrick was drifting back, or running outside a relatively clean pocket multiple times. I trust he will learn from this game and kill it against the Bills.
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