Brown or Fish?

[bricks]

I thought I’d pose this question for the Chiefs left tackle position because I’m curious to know your opinions and how you feel who is the better player for the Chiefs when comparing those two players.

I’m disappointed in Orlando Brown so far. He hasn’t been playing up to expectations. No way is he an elite left tackle at least I say this for now because of the way he is playing. Some games he is getting beat like crazy.

Fisher on the other hand, when he was with us was a solid player. I don’t consider Fishers performance to be that of a #1 overall pick like Orlando Pace and he never will be that guy. Yeah he got beat a good handful of games but overall generally speaking he was solid.

What say you? Is there much of a difference between Fishers play in the past compared to Orlando Browns play today? Which performance was better Fisher past performance at LT or Orlando Browns play at LT right now? I don’t know
if I see much of a difference and so I thought I’d ask.

Maybe Fish’s performance in the past might be better?

[tmax63]

The Titans figured it out. All 3 tackles Brown, Niang and Remmers are on the slow side. By getting a 1 on 1 on Remmers and driving him back into PMII and having the other speed rusher aim 10yds deep and run around Brown they could flush PMII out of the pocket right into the other guy damn near every time. Hopefully they figure out that the short pass game and get PMII to stop dropping 7-10 steps and step up in the pocket and get the ball out of his hands quicker.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by TEX

Or find Tackles that can block better and let our special QB do special things his way. Orlando Brown can hardly block an edge rusher no matter the splits. All he's got is that push, every time, once an edge guy blows by him. Dude is too slow for anything else. He's no LT and if he must play tackle, he's a RT at best but probably better suited for Guard than he is Tackle.

But WTF do I know? (I knew enough to raise an eyebrow at several of our recent moves / decisions, just like most here)

Again, they are coaching their Edge rushers to speed rush on obvious passing downs due to Mahomes floating back in the pocket. This doesn't allow him to get out and do those special things... Mahomes needs to step up and then go outside and do those special things. Teams have figured out that he is stuck in reverse in his drop and hates to step up. Until he does this, our tackles, as any tackle, will get beat more than not on that deep angle rush that they normally wash by deep.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by kccrow

The question posed is Fisher's play in the past vs Brown's current play. The answer is undoubtedly Fisher and it isn't even close.

If you were to ask me now? It doesn't much matter. Fisher isn't 100% and therefore playing about as slow as Brown. That doesn't change the fact that Brown doesn't fit this offense at LT. I don't even think he's a fit at RT.

Alright, thank you for clarifying this with me.

Let’s take this further, Fisher is playing albeit not 100%. Fine.

But, Fish knows this offense and there is a great possibility he is a better fit than Brown right now.

So, banged up Fisher + knows the Chiefs offense + better fit than Brown, how much of a difference or upgrade is that over Brown right now? Is it marginal? Solid? Immense?

Makes me think maybe Chiefs would’ve been better off keeping Fish? He was probably their Chiefs best option?

It’s painful to swallow seeing all the compensation Chiefs gave up for Brown. I think it’s possible they lost that trade. But then it all depends on how those draft picks pan out for Baltimore? Maybe I’m judging too early on this trade? I just don’t like the feeling of this trade. That what my gut tells me. This is a trade that hurts a rebuild which is what I think the Chiefs need to do.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Again, they are coaching their Edge rushers to speed rush on obvious passing downs due to Mahomes floating back in the pocket. This doesn't allow him to get out and do those special things... Mahomes needs to step up and then go outside and do those special things. Teams have figured out that he is stuck in reverse in his drop and hates to step up. Until he does this, our tackles, as any tackle, will get beat more than not on that deep angle rush that they normally wash by deep.

I can regurgitate hot takes all day too, but I know what I see...Our Tackles have protection issues with simple drop backs, especially Brown. If he was quicker it would severely help things immensely. Dude gets beat on the first move all the time. It's pathetic.