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TLO · 10:24 PM

A little surprised, but not THAT surprised.

**Mav** · 01-13-2021, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DawgDays

Can anyone cover him? I think you have to mix it up and try your best to limit explosive plays. Greedy may be in deep doodoo with the nerve damage. Hope he can fully recover, but playing in this game, even if able, would likely be a disaster... his injury started in camp. We've had some real bad breaks in the secondary. From one of the steals of the draft (Delpit) and his Achilles, right through Ward, S and DB have been a revolving door.

As bad as it seems this week, it's better than it's been in a while. Unfortunately for the Browns, there are too many holes against an elite QB, TE and WR(s) that just sit back and play paper-scissors-rock at will.

No, no one can cover Tyreke Hill. You factor in his speed with Mahomes ability to hit him 70 yards down field, he is absolutely uncoverable. And i agree on Greedy, and being quite honest, his ability when healthy last year left a lot to be desired. It will be nice to get Delpit back next year, with Ward recovering, and an entire draft dedicated to the defense. And i agree. You have to double Hill, you have to try to bracket Kelce which leaves LB's 1 on 1 with CEH or Bell, and Watkins, Robinson, and Hardman with 1 on 1 coverage. I do not say this lightly. The Chiefs will have to beat themselves. I think the Browns offense will perform, but the Chiefs will punt far fewer times than the Browns, that will be the difference.

htismaqe · 01-13-2021, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

No, no one can cover Tyreke Hill. You factor in his speed with Mahomes ability to hit him 70 yards down field, he is absolutely uncoverable. And i agree on Greedy, and being quite honest, his ability when healthy last year left a lot to be desired. It will be nice to get Delpit back next year, with Ward recovering, and an entire draft dedicated to the defense. And i agree. You have to double Hill, you have to try to bracket Kelce which leaves LB's 1 on 1 with CEH or Bell, and Watkins, Robinson, and Hardman with 1 on 1 coverage. I do not say this lightly. The Chiefs will have to beat themselves. I think the Browns offense will perform, but the Chiefs will punt far fewer times than the Browns, that will be the difference.

I know going all-in on the defense sounds like a great plan but it isn't. The Chiefs went through this. Hopefully your GM can handle it the way Veach did because the Chiefs were able to fix their defense AND reload the offense at the same time. You really don't want to fix the defense and have the offense regress.

KChiefs1 · 01-13-2021, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Think it was Chris Harris that said the Chiefs offense made him run more than any other offense he'd ever faced.

Just watching what Andy does with Tyreek wears me out just watching.

I bet Tyreek logs 4-5 miles a game with the all the deep routes & motion he does. The guy is like the Energizer Bunny out there.

KChiefs1 · 01-13-2021, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Running with our WR's is going to wind him fast. Hope he's ready.

It's kind of old news now but last year, a CB from the Broncos was talking about using his fitness tracker to monitor his running on game day.

He said that on an average game day, he ran about 11K miles worth of steps. Against Tyreek Hill, is was more like 15K.

Damn. More than I thought.

**Mav** · 01-13-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I know going all-in on the defense sounds like a great plan but it isn't. The Chiefs went through this. Hopefully your GM can handle it the way Veach did because the Chiefs were able to fix their defense AND reload the offense at the same time. You really don't want to fix the defense and have the offense regress.

The ideal part of going all defense is that I think that was the plan. Most of the guys we signed, Sendejo, Karl Joseph, Terrence Mitchell, Kevin Johnson, MJ Stewart, BJ Goodson, Olivier Vernon, Larry Ogunjoby, are all either on the last years of their deal, or are on one year deals. On the other hand, there is not a single starter on offense that will be a free agent. The only one who will be a free agent but they are currently looking to extend is Higgins. Thats why i believe the offseason will be all about the defense.

htismaqe · 01-13-2021, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Damn. More than I thought.

Here is is.

The 11K was actually the highest he could remember, not the average. So it's even worse than I made it out to be.

https://www.12up.com/posts/6205890-b...ng-chiefs-game

DawgDays · 01-13-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

No, no one can cover Tyreke Hill. You factor in his speed with Mahomes ability to hit him 70 yards down field, he is absolutely uncoverable. And i agree on Greedy, and being quite honest, his ability when healthy last year left a lot to be desired. It will be nice to get Delpit back next year, with Ward recovering, and an entire draft dedicated to the defense. And i agree. You have to double Hill, you have to try to bracket Kelce which leaves LB's 1 on 1 with CEH or Bell, and Watkins, Robinson, and Hardman with 1 on 1 coverage. I do not say this lightly. The Chiefs will have to beat themselves. I think the Browns offense will perform, but the Chiefs will punt far fewer times than the Browns, that will be the difference.

Pretty much agreed on all points. Hopefully Delpit comes back 100. This game seems unwinnable. Would have to be a perfect storm of great performance, a few breaks, and then, even then, the Chiefs helping by beating themselves.

Tough to stare down the barrel of a team's schedule and see only one outlier: The Raiders game... five punts and an INT, apparently Mahomes running around off-script for much of the game. Didn't watch much and not sure I can find it. What am I missing CP? Was this just a fluke or is there a glimmer of "formula" here?

KChiefs1 · 01-13-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Here is is.

The 11K was actually the highest he could remember, not the average. So it's even worse than I made it out to be.

https://www.12up.com/posts/6205890-b...ng-chiefs-game

That would explain why it seems other teams after facing the Chiefs completely collapse the next week.

**Mav** · 01-13-2021, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

That would explain why it seems other teams after facing the Chiefs completely collapse the next week.

The amount of speed the Chiefs have is absolutely incredible. You have a 4x100 track squad with Hill Hardman, Watkins and Robinson. Its ridiculous.

KChiefs1 · 01-13-2021, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DawgDays

Pretty much agreed on all points. Hopefully Delpit comes back 100. This game seems unwinnable. Would have to be a perfect storm of great performance, a few breaks, and then, even then, the Chiefs helping by beating themselves.

Tough to stare down the barrel of a team's schedule and see only one outlier: The Raiders game... five punts and an INT, apparently Mahomes running around off-script for much of the game. Didn't watch much and not sure I can find it. What am I missing CP? Was this just a fluke or is there a glimmer of "formula" here?

Here are the highlights from that game...you decide what the formula is:

eastsidedawg · 01-13-2021, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mav

The ideal part of going all defense is that I think that was the plan. Most of the guys we signed, Sendejo, Karl Joseph, Terrence Mitchell, Kevin Johnson, MJ Stewart, BJ Goodson, Olivier Vernon, Larry Ogunjoby, are all either on the last years of their deal, or are on one year deals. On the other hand, there is not a single starter on offense that will be a free agent. The only one who will be a free agent but they are currently looking to extend is Higgins. Thats why i believe the offseason will be all about the defense.

i dont think there will be a ton of free agents signed on defense. i could see the browns drafting a WR mid to later burner type, CB, LB, DL will be the other positions they draft or sign FA here or there.

ronnie harrison has been really good and is a perfect SS Grant delpit is a ball hawk with range will be coming back off injury for FS . Ward and Mitchell with Greedy possibly back at CB. Injuries derailed the Secondary

the linebackers need to step up takitaki is coming on and phillips has flashed they need another stud as well as a long term pass rusher opposite garrett.

Best22 · 01-13-2021, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DawgDays

Pretty much agreed on all points. Hopefully Delpit comes back 100. This game seems unwinnable. Would have to be a perfect storm of great performance, a few breaks, and then, even then, the Chiefs helping by beating themselves.

Tough to stare down the barrel of a team's schedule and see only one outlier: The Raiders game... five punts and an INT, apparently Mahomes running around off-script for much of the game. Didn't watch much and not sure I can find it. What am I missing CP? Was this just a fluke or is there a glimmer of "formula" here?

I think the Chiefs had no respect for the Raiders and basically checked out after building a 21-10 lead since it felt like business as usual. They then out scored us 30-3. We’ve never been dominated like that before or since in the Mahomes era. I think the team got too high after the Ravens beatdown on MNF, and that’s why the play was arrogant and lackadaisical against NE and LV. Since then the Chiefs have been the ones in total control of games (except for the Broncos and Falcon home games). Obviously the Charger game didn’t count because we rested starters.

DawgDays · 01-13-2021, 10:49 AM

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The Browns are scheduled to do something bold and unique this afternoon and hold a practice.

Wow, talk about messing with a winning formula.

I think that makes four sessions in the last month... I mean, if you count the early morning run-through in a New Jersey parking lot with all new WRs.

**MahiMike** · 01-13-2021, 10:51 AM

We're all happy that the Browns/Mayfield, Lamar, Bills got their first playoff wins.

Now go back to the kids table, shut up and sit down.

htismaqe · 01-13-2021, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22

I think the Chiefs had no respect for the Raiders and basically checked out after building a 21-10 lead since it felt like business as usual. They then out scored us 30-3. We’ve never been dominated like that before or since in the Mahomes era. I think the team got too high after the Ravens beatdown on MNF, and that’s why the play was arrogant and lackadaisical against NE and LV. Since then the Chiefs have been the ones in total control of games (except for the Broncos and Falcon home games). Obviously the Charger game didn’t count because we rested starters.

Yep.

The Raiders broke all tendencies, on offense and defense. The Chiefs just responded poorly.

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