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Old 03-26-2024, 06:13 AM   #1
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and 47 degree water.
that too. Read in an article, you have 1 - 3 hours to survive in that temp water before hypothermia sets in.
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Old 03-26-2024, 06:15 AM   #2
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Old 03-26-2024, 06:27 AM   #3
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If you watch some other clips, it looks like the ship lost power twice. After it regains power the 2nd time, you can see the captain or whomever has control of the ship, pouring the power on.

Crazy shit. If the fall doesn't kill the folks, falling into all sorts of twisted metal certainly will.
I used to operate main propulsion and the electric plant on my ship, during my time in the Navy. I believe you are correct that ship lost power. And when it did come back it appears that all the same lighting did not come back with it. Which tells me they only restored power partially.

It would be very difficult to restore everything in that short amount of time. I would assume they lost main propulsion as they would've lost all supporting auxiliaries . They would lose hydraulic steering as well. I believe that ship was just drifting.
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Old 03-26-2024, 06:31 AM   #4
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I used to operate main propulsion and the electric plant on my ship, during my time in the Navy. I believe you are correct that ship lost power. And when it did come back it appears that all the same lighting did not come back with it. Which tells me they only restored power partially.

It would be very difficult to restore everything in that short amount of time. I would assume they lost main propulsion as they would've lost all supporting auxiliaries . They would lose hydraulic steering as well. I believe that ship was just drifting.
oof.

When the mpls bridge collapsed, the one thing it had going for it was the low water level. save a few people, and a bus. But the drop.....another oof.

And who ever said it...yes, there are a lot of shitty bridges in this country.

The term used in MPLS was 'functionally deficient'
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Old 03-26-2024, 11:15 AM   #5
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Crazy shit. If the fall doesn't kill the folks, falling into all sorts of twisted metal certainly will.
I imagine there's a decent chance your car would get pinned underneath the top half of the bridge that falls on top of you... terrifying.
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Old 03-26-2024, 09:05 AM   #6
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First of all, was the captain drunk? And was that bridge made from paper mache? Looks weak as piss.
I doubt the Captain was piloting the ship. Probably the Harbor Pilot. Sounds like the ship just lost power.
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Old 03-26-2024, 10:54 AM   #7
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I doubt the Captain was piloting the ship. Probably the Harbor Pilot. Sounds like the ship just lost power.
I was just about to comment that it would likely be the harbor pilot in charge of the ship. That person is going to know everything about the terrain and the currents, so it had to be a ship malfunction.

Maybe the ship lost power. (Checks thread.) Yeah, that might be it.
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Old 03-26-2024, 11:11 AM   #8
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I was just about to comment that it would likely be the harbor pilot in charge of the ship. That person is going to know everything about the terrain and the currents, so it had to be a ship malfunction.



Maybe the ship lost power. (Checks thread.) Yeah, that might be it.
I hadn't read the whole thread yet, so I missed the 32,000 mentions of potential power loss. Oops!
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Old 03-26-2024, 11:00 AM   #9
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I doubt the Captain was piloting the ship. Probably the Harbor Pilot. Sounds like the ship just lost power.
Not sure the harbor pilot gets onboard that early. My sister has a female friend that is a harbor pilot master at Port of Philly/Delaware and I believe she takes over within a short distant when she boards the ship. She makes insane amounts of money. Dangerous job.
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Old 03-27-2024, 06:34 AM   #10
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Not sure the harbor pilot gets onboard that early. My sister has a female friend that is a harbor pilot master at Port of Philly/Delaware and I believe she takes over within a short distant when she boards the ship. She makes insane amounts of money. Dangerous job.
All reports say the harbor pilots were already aboard.

They must get on very early in the harbor and I did not see an escort tug, which occurs often.

This harbor must have different rules and maybe it is bridge related.
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Thought this provided some nice context on the role of the harbor pilot:

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