S Matt Elam to work out for KC today

[ChiefMojo]

Looks like KC will working out Florida Safety Matt Elam today at 8:00 AM. If we get back a 2nd round pick, Elam is definitely someone to keep a eye on. Yes the younger brother of Abe Elam.

Not to mention Elam is a SS, which should move Berry back to his natural position of FS.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by TEX

Need pass rushers too. The post-knee- injury- Berry BLOWS and is overrated. No big deal if he leaves. It was an absolute joke that he made the Pro Bowl last season. Just goes to show that it more of a popularity contest than anything.

I'm sorry, but this is a complete load of bullshit. He was outstanding the 2nd half of the year last year. He played at a VERY high level. I have no idea what games people watch when they think Winston sucked and now this take on Berry.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by PGM

I'm sorry, but this is a complete load of bullshit. He was outstanding the 2nd half of the year last year. He played at a VERY high level. I have no idea what games people watch when they think Winston sucked and now this take on Berry.

Winston had some pass protection problems at the beginning of the season. Of course some of that can be blamed on a shitty Matt Cassel. Winston wasn't a great pass blocker but was stellar in the running game. Far from "sucking" if you ask me. Still don't know why he was released.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Winston had some pass protection problems at the beginning of the season. Of course some of that can be blamed on a shitty Matt Cassel. Winston wasn't a great pass blocker but was stellar in the running game. Far from "sucking" if you ask me. Still don't know why he was released.

Yeah, I didn't understand that at all. He was a monster in run blocking and I'd say solid in pass pro. Cassel/Quinn last year was the worst QB play I've ever seen yet people blame the tackles. Dumb.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Reminds me of Bob Sanders.

Except better and almost never gets injured.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

It's not your team. Why would you ever be in a position to be delusional about a team you don't support?

And the Jags aren't in an equal or worse position than the Chiefs? Please get off.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by PGM

I saw games where they couldn't crack 3 and a half yards per carry against teams playing nickel/dime the ENTIRE game, so yeah they sucked running the ball Meanwhile KC ripped apart a couple of AFC playoff teams for 300 yards rushing who knew we didn't have a QB. See the difference between shit/great?

The Broncos ranked 16th in rushing so yah, there's room for improvement. I'm not worried. KC on the other hand now has a hc who does not like rushing the ball so whatever stats and things you saw last year is not going to matter at all this coming season.

[BigMeatballDave]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I'm not worried. KC on the other hand now has a hc who does not like rushing the ball so whatever stats and things you saw last year is not going to matter at all this coming season.

Obvious trolling donkey bitch is obvious

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

The Broncos ranked 16th in rushing so yah, there's room for improvement. I'm not worried. KC on the other hand now has a hc who does not like rushing the ball so whatever stats and things you saw last year is not going to matter at all this coming season.

Something tells me he's going to run the ball more than he ever has before, and more than he initially plans to start the season.

Just a gut feeling.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

Elam is a badass. He was always the player you noticed when the Gators were on defense. Hard hitter, makes tons of plays.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by scott free

I dont buy that, he didnt start getting consistently burnt until after the knee... he'll look more like his rookie year going forward, i'd bet.

Uh I don't recall it like that at all. I recall him getting toasted then as well and everyone was saying it is because he is a rookie and that he would improve in the next season. Of course we know where that ended up.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by milkman

Something tells me he's going to run the ball more than he ever has before, and more than he initially plans to start the season.

Just a gut feeling.

I think you are right. Especially after taking all the 'diss' for not using McCoy this last year unlike he did the year before. Charles will be McCoy of '11' with even better production with an improved O-line.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

You live out here as well and you should know they are already clamoring out here for a RB with their first pick. Nobody is sold on WM and his age, nobody is sold on KM for the longterm, and Hillman proved he is not an every down type of back.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by PGM

I'm sorry, but this is a complete load of bullshit. He was outstanding the 2nd half of the year last year. He played at a VERY high level. I have no idea what games people watch when they think Winston sucked and now this take on Berry.

I'm double sorry but THIS is a complete load of extra bullshit. Berry was far from "outstanding" the second half of the season. He played at an AVERAGE level. The guy was ABUSED early on and played at a respectable level at years end. He did not deserve to make the Pro Bowl based on the full body of work put forth last season. He was not the top 1 or 2 at his position. No way - no how.

I'm with you with Eric Winston -

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by TEX

I'm double sorry but THIS is a complete load of extra bullshit. Berry was far from "outstanding" the second half of the season. He played at an AVERAGE level. The guy was ABUSED early on and played at a respectable level at years end. He did not deserve to make the Pro Bowl based on the full body of work put forth last season. He was not the top 1 or 2 at his position. No way - no how.

I'm with you with Eric Winston -

I think Berry just took longer to heal. Not everyone is a freak like Peterson or Charles - most take a full year or more to get back to where they were (if they ever do.)

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Rausch

I think Berry just took longer to heal. Not everyone is a freak like Peterson or Charles - most take a full year or more to get back to where they were (if they ever do.)

My concern with Berry isn't where he's at health wise. I think he'll be fine certainly by the start of next year if he wasn't fully 100% last year.

My concern is his inability to cover TEs. That's going back to his rookie year.

For the life of me I can't figure out why he's at SS. I just think he'd be better suited playing center field, using his smarts & athleticism to try to pick off balls. Move him to FS like he was in college.

[FRCDFED]

Originally Posted by TEX

I'm double sorry but THIS is a complete load of extra bullshit. Berry was far from "outstanding" the second half of the season. He played at an AVERAGE level. The guy was ABUSED early on and played at a respectable level at years end. He did not deserve to make the Pro Bowl based on the full body of work put forth last season. He was not the top 1 or 2 at his position. No way - no how.

I'm with you with Eric Winston -

I completely agree with this. People are dilusional to think that someone completely recovers from an ACL injury. They may be able to play at a high level but they will never be the same or better. Considering Berry was young and ascending at the time of his injury.......his ceiling is lower now and he will never achieve the level of play that we anticipated prior to his injury whether it be to minute physical limitations or the mental aspect that is lingering in the back of his head when he comes up to make a tackle. Just accept it!