***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Oh ****. Did not know that. Is there any other virus spread like this? Could you imagine if this thing was killing just like 5-10% of people? Id never leave my house lol.

I dont' remember exactly, but I "THINK" influenza tends to have high viral tighters about 36 hours before symptoms.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Airbone and via aerosols are different.

How?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

You should just stay in your house until we have a neutralizing immunization. See you in a few years.

Meh I get out and go to Walmart and a little shopping but I am not wanting to sit indoors around alot of people until I get the vaccine.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Donger

How?

Aerosols are actually droplets. So you have droplet transmission vs true airbone via just breathing out.

Droplet spread isn't able to spread as widely and profusely because of the size of the droplet.

[dirk digler]

This new saliva-based COVID-19 test, developed by researchers at Washington University (@wustl), is a major development in testing technology and will help us continue to increase testing volumes and improve turnaround time for test results.

— Governor Mike Parson (@GovParsonMO) August 26, 2020

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Meh I get out and go to Walmart and a little shopping but I am not wanting to sit indoors around alot of people until I get the vaccine.

Get comfy and make sure your Netflix payments are up to date.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Aerosols are actually droplets. So you have droplet transmission vs true airbone via just breathing out.

Droplet spread isn't able to spread as widely and profusely because of the size of the droplet.

So what how is "airborne" transmission accomplished?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Donger

So what how is "airborne" transmission accomplished?

It's all about the size of the droplet, IIRC.

Small "aerosols' are gonna travel farther. So it's one of those technicality things.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Get comfy and make sure your Netflix payments are up to date.

It won't be to much longer I don't think. I have done this since March so I am getting used to it. Plus the football season is starting up so that will keep me occupied.

[O.city]

That was the big worry early with dental practicies since every time we drill or use any rotary tool, we create aerosols.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

This new saliva-based COVID-19 test, developed by researchers at Washington University (@wustl), is a major development in testing technology and will help us continue to increase testing volumes and improve turnaround time for test results.

— Governor Mike Parson (@GovParsonMO) August 26, 2020

Yawn.

Too many false negatives, not cheap enough, not scalable to useful amounts for at least one year bla ba bla ba bla ba ****ing bla

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by lewdog

This is how it should work. I had 7 days of symptoms but went back to work on day 10.

The place here I was talking about...I don't know all of the other specifics but I know of a husband and wife who both presented symptoms during their shift. Protocol was supposed to be to send them to the local emergency testing tent at the local hospital and proceed from there but instead they were told to "get back to work". They were also told that they were expected to report for their shift the next day "or else".

At one point, this place had 170 of the 270 cases in our county and while I don't know how many came from those 2 people, I'm sure they weren't the only 2 that weren't allowed to leave under threat of being fired.

Of course, this place has been sued and/or fined a few dozen times for various OSHA, Health Dept, and other violations. The work that they do makes people sick, it's a known thing around town. They bring people on under a 90-day probation period and when they get sick, they conveniently let their 90 days expire and send them on their way. They've already burned through most of the locals and now they're bringing in people from places like sub-Saharan Africa and putting those people through it.

[dirk digler]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/26/mode...-patients.html

Moderna’s potential coronavirus vaccine generated a promising immune response in elderly patients in an early stage clinical trial, the biotech firm announced Wednesday.

The company tested its vaccine on 10 adults between the ages of 56 and 70 and 10 elderly adults aged 71 and older, Moderna said. Each participant received two 100 microgram doses of the vaccine 28 days apart.

The volunteers produced neutralizing antibodies, which researchers believe are necessary to build immunity to the virus, and killer T-cells, Moderna said in its results, which have not yet been published in a peer-reviewed journal. Additionally, the antibodies that were produced were higher than those seen in people who have recovered from Covid-19.

[TLO]

Surprised there hasn't been more talk about the new CDC guidelines released last night in here.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

Surprised there hasn't been more talk about the new CDC guidelines released last night in here.

Don't tease us...