***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

If we look at the last time the cases were where they are now, the lag came 7 days behind.

Now i think that was because we were testing near like we are now so things had already happened so it didn't really matter.

Last time around deaths actually peaked 3-4 days before cases...

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Love how people who don’t want to wear their masks, Hispanics, and Trump supporters all get blamed for the spread of COVID but none of those people pointing fingers talk about the fact that we had mass protests all over the country for weeks (still going on in some places).

I’m so sick of people and their agendas on both sides.

Yes, your agenda isn't clear at all.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

^^^You want to see a perfect example of wanting to have a socially acceptable conversation rather than an honest and real one?

Lets ignore the facts and data and make sure we mention how bad white people have been too!

The truth is cultural differences play a role in this much much more than political ideology does and that political angle shit gets played out in the media, on social media, and here nonstop. And again Hispanic is not a race.

I dont think it has much to do w cultural differences. I'm sure it plays a part but let's be real many Hispanics are working jobs that suck and that they are still doing even when this pandemic is going on while many whites are collecting unemployment or working remotely. This is a good article on it that I think is objective.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/09/us/hi...act/index.html

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, your agenda isn't clear at all.

What agenda?

I’m not saying they don’t all share blame dumbass. I wear my mask. I practice social distancing.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Love how people who don’t want to wear their masks, Hispanics, and Trump supporters all get blamed for the spread of COVID but none of those people pointing fingers talk about the fact that we had mass protests all over the country for weeks (still going on in some places).

I’m so sick of people and their agendas on both sides.

LA Mayor Garcetti admits 'connection' between coronavirus outbreak and protests, after downplaying link
https://www.foxnews.com/us/la-protes...spike-garcetti

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said Wednesday that public protests are likely causing the number of citywide coronavirus cases to spike, just two days after claiming there wasn't "any conclusive evidence" showing a connection between the two.

I'll leave the rest out but to the point yes, the protesting is certainly not helping

[sedated]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Love how people who don’t want to wear their masks, Hispanics, and Trump supporters all get blamed for the spread of COVID but none of those people pointing fingers talk about the fact that we had mass protests all over the country for weeks (still going on in some places).

I’m so sick of people and their agendas on both sides.

For the 370th time dipshit, most people (at least that I have seen) recognize that the protest played a factor. EVERYTHING played a factor.

But that was 2 months ago, and now most people are focused on what to do moving forward.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by sedated

For the 370th time dipshit, most people (at least that I have seen) recognize that the protest played a factor. EVERYTHING played a factor.

But that was 2 months ago, and now most people are focused on what to do moving forward.

Umm what? The protests, while no longer all over the country, are STILL going on. They’ve been going on for 6+ weeks.

Dipshit.

And no, people don’t treat the protests/riots the same way they treat people who don’t want to wear their mask. It’s not even remotely close.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by sedated

For the 370th time dipshit, most people (at least that I have seen) recognize that the protest played a factor. EVERYTHING played a factor.

But that was 2 months ago, and now most people are focused on what to do moving forward.

The protests started in mid\late-June and in some places continue on almost a nightly basis.

So it isn't like they have stopped.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

What agenda?

I’m not saying they don’t all share blame dumbass. I wear my mask. I practice social distancing.

I suggest you re-read your post. You might see it. Or not.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by sedated

For the 370th time dipshit, most people (at least that I have seen) recognize that the protest played a factor. EVERYTHING played a factor.

But that was 2 months ago, and now most people are focused on what to do moving forward.

No, no one is doing that...

"Masks can help, but it's masks plus physical separation," Fauci said in an interview on "Good Morning America" Wednesday.

"When you get congregations like we saw with the demonstrations," he continued, "that's taking a risk."

"Many of them would then go back to where they were [from] because not everyone was demonstrating in the city where they live," he said. "So it's the kind of things that we were concerned about and, unfortunately, we're seeing it come true right now."

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

I suggest you re-read your post. You might see it. Or not.

Calling it like I see it means I have an agenda?

You can’t pick and choose who you want to blame and demonize when they’re ALL contributing.

You can’t point out that America is doing worse than everybody while ignoring that mass protests all over the country for weeks on end probably has a lot to do with it as well.

[sedated]

George Floyd was killed at the end of May, so the protests were around the beginning of June. While I'm not exactly following closely, I haven't heard anything about it in weeks (other than the stuff in Portland, which has just turned into another left/right endless argument)

[Donger]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Calling it like I see it means I have an agenda?

Yes.

Originally Posted by staylor26

You can’t pick and choose who you want to blame and demonize when they’re ALL contributing.

You can’t point out that America is doing worse than everybody while ignoring that mass protests all over the country for weeks on end probably has a lot to do with it as well.

See above.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes.



See above.

Calling people out for their hypocrisy isn’t an agenda.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Calling it like I see it means I have an agenda?

You can’t pick and choose who you want to blame and demonize when they’re ALL contributing.

You can’t point out that America is doing worse than everybody while ignoring that mass protests all over the country for weeks on end probably has a lot to do with it as well.

Donger can have an agenda because he's on the Right Side of the Dunning Kruger curve.