The logic of drafting OT in the 1st. - Page 36

Direckshun · 01-21-2021, 01:23 PM

What we know about this team is that it typically likes to fill its roster out as much as possible in free agency and then spend its highest picks on potential replacements for job openings a year down the road, and that includes Veach.

I doubt I even need to run down the list but:

2020: CEH --> Williams
2019: Hardman --> Hill/Watkins
2018: Speaks --> Ford/Houston
2017: Mahomes --> Smith

Fisher will be on the last year of his contract, and most of us suspect Schwartz retiring.

The Chiefs obviously like Niang but going OT 1st gives them the options:

Niang vs. the rookie for starting RT
if the rookie wins, Niang can slide into guard or hold the swing tackle position
if Niang wins, the rookie can slide into guard or hold the swing tackle position
the Chiefs love Fisher but if both Niang and the rookie excel, maybe they cut bait
if only one of them excel, the Chiefs can extend Fisher

It just seems like the kind of move that gives them the flexibility in future decisions that they like to have.

I'd rather they go DE, even if it means trading up for one. But based on what we know, OT could ostensibly solve up to two different OL spots in 2021 and gives them all kinds of options in 2022 based on how 2021 goes.

In58men · 02-09-2021, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Would it take a 3rd to get it done?

24 yrs old, 2x pro-bowler.

I’d say 1st round pick and a starting caliber player.

O.city · 02-09-2021, 12:31 PM

Iirc he needs a new contract too?

O.city · 02-09-2021, 12:31 PM

If Schwartz is done, you could have brown play rt once Fisher comes back

**The Franchise** · 02-09-2021, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If Schwartz is done, you could have brown play rt once Fisher comes back

Pretty sure he wants out of Baltimore because he wants to be a LT.

In58men · 02-09-2021, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Iirc he needs a new contract too?

This is true

O.city · 02-09-2021, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Pretty sure he wants out of Baltimore because he wants to be a LT.

That’s fine

Pay him well and he won’t care I’d guess

duncan_idaho · 02-09-2021, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

That’s fine

Pay him well and he won’t care I’d guess

He wants the deal they gave Ronnie Stanley.

Chris Meck · 02-09-2021, 03:40 PM

yeah not gonna happen.

RunKC · 02-14-2021, 01:47 PM

If we’re looking for a 3rd rd gem I highly recommend D’Ante Smith. He can play anywhere but C and looks athletic as all hell.

Here’s some footage:

D'Ante Smith is another player who has had a strong week. #ECU pic.twitter.com/WP4SihL7Nx
— Billy M (@BillyM_91) January 28, 2021

Now D'Ante shows what he can do at RT pic.twitter.com/NcL7z4Elft
— Billy M (@BillyM_91) January 28, 2021

To the echo of the whistle! D’Ante Smith (#67) plays with a nasty temperament. Most of his experience is at left tackle, some teams may value that type of disposition inside. pic.twitter.com/iDDHqfuXsI
— Ryan Roberts (@RiseNDraft) December 28, 2020

kccrow · 02-14-2021, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If we’re looking for a 3rd rd gem I highly recommend D’Ante Smith. He can play anywhere but C and looks athletic as all hell.

Here’s some footage:

D'Ante Smith is another player who has had a strong week. #ECU pic.twitter.com/WP4SihL7Nx
— Billy M (@BillyM_91) January 28, 2021

Now D'Ante shows what he can do at RT pic.twitter.com/NcL7z4Elft
— Billy M (@BillyM_91) January 28, 2021

To the echo of the whistle! D’Ante Smith (#67) plays with a nasty temperament. Most of his experience is at left tackle, some teams may value that type of disposition inside. pic.twitter.com/iDDHqfuXsI
— Ryan Roberts (@RiseNDraft) December 28, 2020

Reminds me a ton of Matt Peart from last year who ended up going 99th. Same guy, light in the pants but ultra-athletic and pops on tape. I think you'd have to spend a year bulking him up to move him inside unless he could end up handling center, otherwise you're probably looking at leaving him at LT. Interesting guy though.

staylor26 · 02-14-2021, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

If we’re looking for a 3rd rd gem I highly recommend D’Ante Smith. He can play anywhere but C and looks athletic as all hell.

Here’s some footage:

D'Ante Smith is another player who has had a strong week. #ECU pic.twitter.com/WP4SihL7Nx
— Billy M (@BillyM_91) January 28, 2021

Now D'Ante shows what he can do at RT pic.twitter.com/NcL7z4Elft
— Billy M (@BillyM_91) January 28, 2021

To the echo of the whistle! D’Ante Smith (#67) plays with a nasty temperament. Most of his experience is at left tackle, some teams may value that type of disposition inside. pic.twitter.com/iDDHqfuXsI
— Ryan Roberts (@RiseNDraft) December 28, 2020

I’ve been on the Smith bandwagon ever since I saw him during Senior Bowl week.

He’s going to be a great late day 2 to early day 2 value.

Dull Tools · 02-15-2021, 08:19 AM

I am currently thinking I would prefer an edge rusher in round 1 and then an OT in round 2 and WR in Round 3.

Think the field is deep for WR and OT but not so for edge rushers.

Chris Meck · 02-15-2021, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dull Tools

I am currently thinking I would prefer an edge rusher in round 1 and then an OT in round 2 and WR in Round 3.

Think the field is deep for WR and OT but not so for edge rushers.

this is exactly what I have found.

RunKC · 02-15-2021, 04:43 PM

Gonna have to ask htismaqe about the Iowa kid Alaric Jackson. He seems like an excellent G prospect who has played extensive time at Tackle.

Seems like an ideal mid rd option

htismaqe · 02-15-2021, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Gonna have to ask htismaqe about the Iowa kid Alaric Jackson. He seems like an excellent G prospect who has played extensive time at Tackle.

Seems like an ideal mid rd option

Probably a little later than mid-round. He was inconsistent at tackle but could definitely play inside in the NFL. I think he'll likely be a 5th round pick at this point.

01-21-2021, 01:23 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4243447	The logic of drafting OT in the 1st. What we know about this team is that it typically likes to fill its roster out as much as possible in free agency and then spend its highest picks on potential replacements for job openings a year down the road, and that includes Veach. I doubt I even need to run down the list but: 2020: CEH --> Williams 2019: Hardman --> Hill/Watkins 2018: Speaks --> Ford/Houston 2017: Mahomes --> Smith Fisher will be on the last year of his contract, and most of us suspect Schwartz retiring. The Chiefs obviously like Niang but going OT 1st gives them the options: Niang vs. the rookie for starting RT if the rookie wins, Niang can slide into guard or hold the swing tackle position if Niang wins, the rookie can slide into guard or hold the swing tackle position the Chiefs love Fisher but if both Niang and the rookie excel, maybe they cut bait if only one of them excel, the Chiefs can extend Fisher It just seems like the kind of move that gives them the flexibility in future decisions that they like to have. I'd rather they go DE, even if it means trading up for one. But based on what we know, OT could ostensibly solve up to two different OL spots in 2021 and gives them all kinds of options in 2022 based on how 2021 goes.
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2079611	Gonna have to ask htismaqe about the Iowa kid Alaric Jackson. He seems like an excellent G prospect who has played extensive time at Tackle. Seems like an ideal mid rd option __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
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