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Old 06-29-2020, 02:33 PM   #1
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Old 06-29-2020, 02:48 PM   #2
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This probably puts them as the favorites to meet us in the AFCCG
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Old 06-29-2020, 05:22 PM   #3
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This probably puts them as the favorites to meet us in the AFCCG
I do not understand this logic at all.

Is Cam Newton better than Tom Brady? They still don’t have any weapons. Their OL is still below average.

Did they not lose some key pieces on defense like Van Noy?

They are worse than they were in 2019 and now Cam Newton puts them in the AFCCG?

I think a lot of you are overrating the hell out of this move. The guy hasn’t even played good football in years.
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:13 PM   #4
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I do not understand this logic at all.

Is Cam Newton better than Tom Brady? They still don’t have any weapons. Their OL is still below average.

Did they not lose some key pieces on defense like Van Noy?

They are worse than they were in 2019 and now Cam Newton puts them in the AFCCG?

I think a lot of you are overrating the hell out of this move. The guy hasn’t even played good football in years.
Yes. A 31 year old Cam Newton is better than a 43 yr old Tom Brady.
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Old 06-29-2020, 08:23 PM   #5
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Yes. A 31 year old Cam Newton is better than a 43 yr old Tom Brady.
Based on what exactly?

It can’t be their recent play.
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Old 06-29-2020, 09:20 PM   #6
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Based on what exactly?

It can’t be their recent play.
Depending on their line. A good running game and a mobile QB will keep the chains moving. Just hit a few short passes for balance.

Tom was mostly protect at all cost and him hit hronk or the open guy.

If Bill can get ahold of his ego they may win an extra game or two. Or someone's QB goes down in the short training camp or early season and trade.

Pats have nothing to lose.

Well other than drafting a new QB.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:15 PM   #7
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Based on what exactly?

It can’t be their recent play.
Did you fail to see Tom Brady play football last year? Cam is going to be as healthy as hes been since entering the league. I expect a quasi revitalization of his career. Cam, unlike Lamar Jackson, can actually throw a football.

Cams last full season he had a 94 QB rating in 14 games in 2018. Throwing to guys named DJ Moore and Devin Funchess. While having some injury issues if I recall.

Also, we've seen how inventive McDaniels can be and I'm sure hes anxious to mold his offense differently after being hamstrung by a 42 yr old noodle armed statue of Tom Brady last year.
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Old 06-29-2020, 10:43 PM   #8
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Based on what exactly?

It can’t be their recent play.
Cam is more mobile, can legitimately kill teams in a running offense like Lamar and can still make decent throws. I don’t think his arm is completely shot.

Brady’s arm was dying in December last year and he’s a statue.

Brady is more clutch though. No doubt about that
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Old 06-30-2020, 05:32 AM   #9
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I do not understand this logic at all.

Is Cam Newton better than Tom Brady?
According to all of you, yes.

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They still don’t have any weapons. Their OL is still below average.
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Did they not lose some key pieces on defense like Van Noy?
Uhh... LIKE Van Noy? They lost Van Noy (who was a nobody before getting into their system) and Jamie Collins (who was a failure before getting back into their system). That's about it. The Pats were the #1 D in yards allowed AND points allowed. You telling me Van Noy was THAT good?

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They are worse than they were in 2019 and now Cam Newton puts them in the AFCCG?
He's replacing the 24th-best QB last season. If he's healthy, you don't think he can do better? If the Patriots had a healthy Cam last season or an Andy Dalton, you don't think they do better?
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Old 06-30-2020, 06:15 AM   #10
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Old 06-29-2020, 05:34 PM   #11
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This probably puts them as the favorites to meet us in the AFCCG
Ravens still have a much better squad
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Ravens still have a much better squad
As do the Bills and Titans (although maybe not “much” better). The Colts might be better as well.

The only thing the Pats have on either of those teams is coaching.
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The only thing the Pats have on either of those teams is coaching.
That’s a huge factor to who wins games. Cam with the Patriots is basically the same team as the Bills and Titans, except the coaching is elite.

Watch Bill run the Ravens offense this year. People seem to forget that Cam was Lamar Jackson before Lamar Jackson.
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That’s a huge factor to who wins games. Cam with the Patriots is basically the same team as the Bills and Titans, except the coaching is elite.

Watch Bill run the Ravens offense this year. People seem to forget that Cam was Lamar Jackson before Lamar Jackson.


Cam is 32 and his body started to break down a while ago.

And bullshit. The Pats do NOT have a roster as good as the Titans or Bills. That Pats roster is as bad as it’s been in a very long time.
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