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Direckshun · 12-03-2018, 12:34 AM

The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season.

They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown.

Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style.

But that might change. He may see the field.

Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim.

We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does.

The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past.

As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game.

The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT.

But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative.

As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks.

#1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game).
#1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game).

I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here.

The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount.

Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well.

The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage.

In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD.

They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games.

Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons
Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers

That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point.

How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do.

What is going on?

Beef Supreme · 12-06-2018, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by camdenyard

LOL that was good. Nah, I'm not interested in smack. Just wanted to talk some football. Carry on.

In case you lack any sort of awareness, we have had our share of "visiting fans" this year and almost none of them just want to talk some football. They want to be douchebags and trolls. But this board is better at that than they are. So enjoy your stay. I'm sure it won't be long.

Naptown Chief · 12-06-2018, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

I love you and I'm in love with you

That's very nice of you!

You seem nice

Shoes · 12-06-2018, 01:04 PM

Lamar Jackson is a more athletic Tim Tebow.... convince me otherwise.

camdenyard · 12-06-2018, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme

In case you lack any sort of awareness, we have had our share of "visiting fans" this year and almost none of them just want to talk some football. They want to be douchebags and trolls. But this board is better at that than they are. So enjoy your stay. I'm sure it won't be long.

Well, I visit about as frequently as we play each other, so no I am not aware of any issues you've had with other fans. I don't doubt you get trolls, we do on our board as well. Just looking for friendly debate. I invite you to our board as well. I am a mod so be nice

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bowener · 12-06-2018, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by camdenyard

Well, I visit about as frequently as we play each other, so no I am not aware of any issues you've had with other fans. I don't doubt you get trolls, we do on our board as well. Just looking for friendly debate. I invite you to our board as well. I am a mod so be nice

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If the Chiefs sign Kelvin Benjamin they will eat the Ravens alive.

KChiefs1 · 12-06-2018, 01:22 PM

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Sassy Squatch · 12-06-2018, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by camdenyard

Well, I visit about as frequently as we play each other, so no I am not aware of any issues you've had with other fans. I don't doubt you get trolls, we do on our board as well. Just looking for friendly debate. I invite you to our board as well. I am a mod so be nice

forum.russellstreetreport.com/forumdisplay.php?3-Ravens-24x7

Do us a favor and ask Jason La Canforna why he's still such a butthurt little bitch about the Royals sweeping the O's in 2014. I know Guthrie wore a mean shirt but goddamn.

Blick · 12-06-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoes

Lamar Jackson is a more athletic Tim Tebow.... convince me otherwise.

The Tebow comparison doesn't make much sense. He's somewhere between Vick and RG3 imo.

Better thrower than Tebow. Way faster. Different body types. Tebow had like 30 pounds on Jackson.

Shoes · 12-06-2018, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Blick

The Tebow comparison doesn't make much sense. He's somewhere between Vick and RG3 imo.

Better thrower than Tebow. Way faster. Different body types. Tebow had like 30 pounds on Jackson.

The comparison is in regards to their body of work not actually their body type you bafoon.

Two quarterbacks that look more natural running the ball than throwing the ball. Michael Vick could actually throw the ball down the field- comparing Lamar Jackson to Vick is an insult. The RG3 comparison is closer- but remember RG3 was greater than a 70% completion rate in the NCAA his last collegiate year at Baylor while Lamar Jackson never even hit 60% in any season at Louisville. I think the Tebow comparison is spot on- Jackson and Tebow struggle and will struggle to throw the ball at the NFL level. There is a reason why so many scouts and teams wanted to convert Lamar Jackson- cause he's an athlete not a QB.

You think that 59% completion percentage is gonna get any better in the big league?

Blick · 12-06-2018, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoes

The comparison is in regards to their body of work not actually their body type you bafoon.

Two quarterbacks that look more natural running the ball than throwing the ball. Michael Vick could actually throw the ball down the field- comparing Lamar Jackson to Vick is an insult. The RG3 comparison is closer- but remember RG3 was greater than a 70% completion rate in the NCAA his last collegiate year at Baylor while Lamar Jackson never even hit 60% in any season at Louisville. I think the Tebow comparison is spot on- Jackson and Tebow struggle and will struggle to throw the ball at the NFL level. There is a reason why so many scouts and teams wanted to convert Lamar Jackson- cause he's an athlete not a QB.

You think that 59% completion percentage is gonna get any better in the big league?

Sorry, you said he's a "more athletic Tebow" so I described them physically and athletically.

59% is still way better than Tebow's career 48%.

Jackson had two seasons of 3500+ yards in college. Tebow's best was 3200 and had 2 seasons under 3000.

Jackson is a way better passer like I said.

bowener · 12-06-2018, 02:47 PM

God damn. After reading some of their posts in their forum it is clear most of their posters haven't watched more than Chiefs highlights.

They keep saying TOP is key... bullshit. The Chiefs don't give a **** how long you have the ball, they will score in a minute or less if needed.

They talk about how the Chiefs haven't faced a D like theirs and Pat will be on his ass all game. I guess they didn't bother to look at the defensive fronts the Chiefs have gone against this season.

They say they must win the turnover battle like that matters. Chiefs lost the ball 5 times versus the Rams in LA, and still only lost by 3 ****ing points to a MUCH more threatening offense.

They think the Chiefs rely on chunk plays and aren't capable of sustained drives... that is possibly the dumbest ****ing comment of all. The Chiefs don't rely on chunk plays, they ****ing create them. The Chiefs version of a sustained drive is long ass plays until they score in 3 minutes or less. They aren't fluke plays, this offense is just that good.

All the Chiefs have to do this game on offense is have an average day, and defensively they must force Lamar to win the game throwing.

Even if neither of those things happens I think the Chiefs win a close one. If both happen the Chiefs put this one away like the Jags game.

BryanBusby · 12-06-2018, 02:49 PM

We're going to **** them

In the beak

KChiefs1 · 12-06-2018, 03:12 PM

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KChiefs1 · 12-06-2018, 03:12 PM

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Canty

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**The Franchise** · 12-06-2018, 03:22 PM

The only chance that the Ravens have is to control the clock and keep our offense off the field. If we go up 14-21 points....the Ravens are ****ed.

12-03-2018, 12:34 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4343447	Let's talk about the Ravens. The Ravens are a uniquely weird team in Week 14 of the NFL season. They're weird because their QB position is a great unknown. Joe Flacco is, of course, the world's most underwhelming Super Bowl MVP, and has sucked this year. We know who he is, we have millions of hours of underwhelming tape to depressingly watch. And he returned to practice this week, but did not play, Eric Berry style. But that might change. He may see the field. Which is interesting, because their backup QB, Lamar Jackson, a 1st round selection by the Ravens (albeit with the 32nd pick), is a very weird player. He runs, and runs, and runs with the ball. His completion percentage is a not-terrible 60%. And he's only played three weeks, so tape on him is slim. We know this: he is fast, he is not afraid to run the ball, and he's a damn gazelle when he does. The good news: we can probably spy him. His weapons are bleak. Alex Collins is his #1 RB, and he's averaging 3.6 yards a carry. His #1 receiver is John Brown, who initially looked like Tyreek Hill when he first hit the league, but has since statistically slowed down and is now just a good receiver with very difficult speed to account for. Michael Crabtree is their #2 alongside Willie Snead, and Tyreek Hill has more yardage than both of those guys combined, but Crabtree has had good games against us in the past. As a result, the Ravens are still somehow 13th in the league in yardage, they are averaging 25 points a game. The Ravens have good pass protection, as they've only given up like 25 sacks or something like that. Ronnie Stanley is their LT. But really, the Ravens offense wins by trying to run the ball, passing decently, and then letting Lamar Jackson get creative. As far as the defense is concerned.................. biggest test of the year right here folks. #1 rated defense in yardage (they're allowing under 300 yards/game). #1 rated defense in points (they're allowing 17 points/game). I think it's safe to say we're going to beat those averages but they should still slow us down pretty significantly. I don't know if Patty will have another 4 TD game here. The Ravens get good pressure on the QB -- they're 9th in the league in sacks, and the pressure comes from everywhere. Suggs has always played well against us but he only has 5.5 this year. They blitz a good amount. Simply put, the Ravens pass defense will be the biggest challenge Mahomes faces all year. They're allowing under 200 yards passing all season. Eric Weddle is a goddamn general at the back of their defense, and they've got a solid corner or two despite the fact that none of their corners are true ballhawks. Brandon Carr will make a rare appearance against the Chiefs, which is whatever, but he's apparently playing well. The Ravens have a mean defensive line, and maybe the meanest NT in the league in Brandon Williams. I'm willing to bet they drop everyone in coverage, smother Kelce, and dare Spencer Ware to beat their DL. That's a very tall order, and I don't think our run game is up to the challenge. Mahomes will need to tap every ounce of his MVP talent to get yardage. In special teams, they have arguably the greatest kicker in modern NFL history in Justin Tucker. They've had one punt return for a TD. They're 7-5. They're on a three game win streak. Lamar Jackson has started all three games. Their wins: Bills, Broncos, @Steelers, @Titans, Bengals (no Dalton), Raiders, @Falcons Losses: @Bengals (Dalton), @Browns, Saints, @Panthers, Steelers That schedule is all over the place. They beat Pitt in Pitt, but pathetically lose to the Browns. The most damning game on the schedule is the Saints game, where they only lost by a point. How is this team so good? I've asked before. They have no elite talent on offense and are still racking up yardage and point. They have a damn good defense but don't intercept the ball and they don't have any sack masters like the Chiefs do. What is going on?
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bowener BAMF! Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $9549897	God damn. After reading some of their posts in their forum it is clear most of their posters haven't watched more than Chiefs highlights. They keep saying TOP is key... bullshit. The Chiefs don't give a ** how long you have the ball, they will score in a minute or less if needed. They talk about how the Chiefs haven't faced a D like theirs and Pat will be on his ass all game. I guess they didn't bother to look at the defensive fronts the Chiefs have gone against this season. They say they must win the turnover battle like that matters. Chiefs lost the ball 5 times versus the Rams in LA, and still only lost by 3 ing points to a MUCH more threatening offense. They think the Chiefs rely on chunk plays and aren't capable of sustained drives... that is possibly the dumbest ing comment of all. The Chiefs don't rely on chunk plays, they *ing create them. The Chiefs version of a sustained drive is long ass plays until they score in 3 minutes or less. They aren't fluke plays, this offense is just that good. All the Chiefs have to do this game on offense is have an average day, and defensively they must force Lamar to win the game throwing. Even if neither of those things happens I think the Chiefs win a close one. If both happen the Chiefs put this one away like the Jags game. __________________ Main Entry: bowe·ner Pronunciation: \ˈbō-nər\ Function: noun* Date: circa 2007
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