Chiefs Where do the Chiefs stand in the Division? - Page 14

comochiefsfan · 03-23-2022, 10:40 AM

This hurts.

We're clearly behind LA now and probably even with Denver and Vegas.

Hopefully we make the playoffs next year. This blows.

KChiefs1 · 03-25-2022, 05:55 PM

Don’t bother looking for the Chiefs.

Is this como’s list?

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comochiefsfan · 03-25-2022, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Don’t bother looking for the Chiefs.

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What's the source on this?

I'm so tired of the hot takes man. I know I shit talk the guy but I really hope Veach kills the draft and we shut everyone up this year.

The disrespect to Mahomes and Reid is insane.

KChiefs1 · 03-31-2022, 07:53 PM

AFC West: Power Ranking the Four Teams After a Wild NFL Offseason
by Matthew Wadleigh

The NFL offseason hasn’t taken a break since the Super Bowl ended. Aaron Rodgers returned to the Green Bay Packers, Tom Brady retired, then unretired, Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson got traded, and the list continues. One of the most active divisions in free agency and the trade market was the AFC West.

The Kansas City Chiefs, Las Vegas Raiders, Los Angeles Chargers, and Denver Broncos all have a ton of new faces, and some watched familiar faces leave for new opportunities. The ripple effect in the AFC West should make for an exciting race in 2022 and beyond after years of Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs entering as the favorites.

Yet, here we are, just a couple of weeks away from the NFL Draft, and the entire landscape of the division has shifted dramatically. Let’s rank the AFC West after a flurry of acquisitions by every one of the four teams.

1. Los Angeles Chargers

Key Additions: Khalil Mack, J.C. Jackson, Sebastian Joseph-Day, Gerald Everett, Austin Johnson

Key Departures: Uchenna Nwosu, Justin Jones, Kyzir White

The Chargers have been one of the biggest winners in the entire NFL this offseason. They brought back wide receiver Mike Williams on a three-year deal and engineered a brilliant trade for Chicago Bears pass rusher Khalil Mack.

In doing so, they have formed one of the best pass-rushing duos in the NFL with Mack and Joey Bosa. If that weren’t enough, they landed the best cornerback on the market in J.C. Jackson and added depth on the defensive line with the other two.

Gerald Everett is a massive upgrade over aging veteran Jared Cook, and the Chargers still have the 17th overall pick in the draft to add another key piece.

To sum it up, the Chargers brought in a ton of weapons and addressed their biggest needs on defense while keeping Williams in town and adding a quality tight end. On top of that, they haven’t lost much this offseason, and Mack essentially replaces Nwosu on the edge.

The Chargers missed the playoffs last year, thanks to the Raiders edging them out in a thrilling Week 18 game. But make no mistake, this team is going all-in for a Super Bowl run, and they are expected to be the top contender in the AFC West and can even make a run for the entire conference if things go their way.

2. Kansas City Chiefs

Key Additions: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Ronald Jones, Justin Reid, Marquez Valdes-Scantling

Key Departures: Tyreek Hill, Tyrann Mathieu, Austin Blythe, Charvarius Ward, Byron Pringle, Demarcus Robinson

The Kansas City Chiefs can quickly go from the AFC West division winners in 2021 to the bottom of the division in 2022. That is how topsy-turvy this division is.

The loss of Tyreek Hill is a massive one for them, and they also saw wide receivers Demarcus Robinson and Byron Pringle leave. But, they brought in JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling in a revamped WR room, so there is some hope.

The Chiefs also let Tyrann Mathieu walk, and he remains unsigned as of March 31. Justin Reid is an excellent replacement for Mathieu, but losing him, Hill, and Charvarius Ward in the same offseason are tough losses.

Nonetheless, it is hard to count against a team that still has Mahomes and Travis Kelce, not to mention a defense that was much improved down the stretch in 2021. Until Mahomes slows down, the Chiefs will be competitive, but the loss of Hill is more than enough to kick them out of the top spot of this division — and it could derail them altogether.

3. Denver Broncos

Key Additions: Russell Wilson, Randy Gregory, Alex Singleton

Key Departures: Noah Fant, Shelby Harris

The Broncos missed out on Rodgers but wasted no time acquiring Wilson in a massive trade with the Seattle Seahawks. For years, Denver has been playing quarterback hot potato, and they finally solved those issues by landing Wilson.

That is a massive get, and bringing on Randy Gregory is a significant addition for their defense, even if the contract is a little questionable.

Those moves are enormous bonuses, but the Broncos still have question marks. How will Wilson fit in with first-year head coach Nathaniel Hackett? How will the wide receivers in Denver perform?

All three of Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, and Tim Patrick have been on and off during their NFL careers, although a large part of that could be due to the quarterback limbo in the Mile High City.

It is also worth noting that Wilson is coming off a hand injury that bothered him a ton in his final year with the Seahawks, although he should be ready to roll with new threads for the first time in his career.

The Broncos are making the playoffs, assuming everything goes as planned, and could be on top of this division.

4. Las Vegas Raiders

Key Additions: Davante Adams, Chandler Jones, Brandon Bolden, Rock Ya-Sin, Demarcus Robinson

Key Departures: Yannick Ngakoue, Zay Jones, Alec Ingold, Casey Hayward, Brandon Facyson, Cory Littleton, Marcus Mariota

The Raiders might be a surprise at this spot on the rankings. But, let’s explain.

The blockbuster trade of Davante Adams was a stunning move for the entire NFL, and the reunion of Derek Carr and Adams is a welcomed sight. The former Fresno State pairing finally gets to play together in the NFL and hopefully for a long time, if Carr and the Raiders can ink a long-term deal.

The addition of Chandler Jones is a big one, and pairing him with Maxx Crosby is a dangerous duo. Rock Ya-Sin was an excellent trade acquisition, and Brandon Bolden is a solid change of pace back familiar with Josh McDaniels’ system.

However, the Raiders have failed to address their most pressing need: the offensive line.

The Raiders don’t have a first or second-round pick due to the Adams trade, and there is no question they need help upfront to protect Carr. That is a significant concern, and the secondary in Las Vegas is also somewhat of a problem. There is no doubt the offense got better with the addition of Adams, but the patchy offensive line might be a troubling factor in Sin City.

On the other hand, the Raiders have a path to another playoff trip, and who knows, this looks more and more like three teams make the playoffs from the AFC West.

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Coochie liquor · 03-31-2022, 08:08 PM

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It would be a bad beach day in St Petersburg before I'd let someone disagree with me and get away with it.

I’ve been to the beach in St Petersburg many times.... NEVER had a bad day there.

You in my county??

Rasputin · 03-31-2022, 10:39 PM

Josh McClown has a losing record as HC and Derek MasCarra has a losing record in the NFL and they have them 8

Andy Reid has yet to have a losing season in Kansas City and I don't see us losing the division this year after 6 in a row why would they not count the Chiefs but I love it when they don't and then we finish on top.

Chargers win the offseason yet again. They will have the best draft too!

stevegroganfan · 04-01-2022, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

What's the source on this?

I'm so tired of the hot takes man. I know I shit talk the guy but I really hope Veach kills the draft and we shut everyone up this year.

The disrespect to Mahomes and Reid is insane.

It may be a little disrespectful to Mahomes and Reid but it is certainly disrespectful to Brett Veach. If you exclude the draft, this is not a crazy ranking of teams since the Chiefs have lost more than Tyreek Hill.

The flaw in this ranking and several others is the Chiefs have a boatload of picks due to the Tyreek Hill trade and 2 out of the 3 other AFC West teams don't even come close in terms of their draft capital.

Raiders don't even have a pick until the 3rd round. I'd be very surprised if the Raiders finish above the Chiefs.
Chargers have 17th pick of first round but after that, their collection of picks is not nearly as good as the Chiefs.

Outside of KC, Denver despite not having a first round pick this year probably has the best collection of picks among AFC West teams heading into the draft.

Chiefs still deserve to be considered AFC west favorites

scho63 · 04-01-2022, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PHOG

This is idiotic. Everyone knows the Chargers will win it all.

Until training camps starts and they lose 9 starters to injuries.

synthesis2 · 04-01-2022, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

This hurts.

We're clearly behind LA now and probably even with Denver and Vegas.

Hopefully we make the playoffs next year. This blows.

We are better than last year, I'm 99% sure unless something happens to Patrick we are the team to beat next year, zero doubt about it.

synthesis2 · 04-01-2022, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Don’t bother looking for the Chiefs.

Is this como’s list?

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I would bet 5k that the chiefs have a better record than the dolphins!!! Ho$y Hell...LOL

ThaVirus · 04-01-2022, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by synthesis2

We are better than last year

How?

On paper you simply cannot make this claim.

htismaqe · 04-01-2022, 08:32 AM

That power ranking list is comical.

KChiefs1 · 04-01-2022, 11:34 AM

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FloridaMan88 · 04-01-2022, 11:37 AM

The definition of insanity… jumping on the Chargers bandwagon every year, JFC.

Mr. Plow · 04-01-2022, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The definition of insanity… jumping on the Chargers bandwagon every year, JFC.

If they keep saying it year, after year, after year.... eventually the prediction will come true.

TEX · 04-01-2022, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by synthesis2

We are better than last year, I'm 99% sure unless something happens to Patrick we are the team to beat next year, zero doubt about it.

Dang. I just don't see that at this point

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KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	AFC West: Power Ranking the Four Teams After a Wild NFL Offseason by Matthew Wadleigh The NFL offseason hasn’t taken a break since the Super Bowl ended. Aaron Rodgers returned to the Green Bay Packers, Tom Brady retired, then unretired, Deshaun Watson and Russell Wilson got traded, and the list continues. One of the most active divisions in free agency and the trade market was the AFC West. The Kansas City Chiefs, Las Vegas Raiders, Los Angeles Chargers, and Denver Broncos all have a ton of new faces, and some watched familiar faces leave for new opportunities. The ripple effect in the AFC West should make for an exciting race in 2022 and beyond after years of Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs entering as the favorites. Yet, here we are, just a couple of weeks away from the NFL Draft, and the entire landscape of the division has shifted dramatically. Let’s rank the AFC West after a flurry of acquisitions by every one of the four teams. 1. Los Angeles Chargers Key Additions: Khalil Mack, J.C. Jackson, Sebastian Joseph-Day, Gerald Everett, Austin Johnson Key Departures: Uchenna Nwosu, Justin Jones, Kyzir White The Chargers have been one of the biggest winners in the entire NFL this offseason. They brought back wide receiver Mike Williams on a three-year deal and engineered a brilliant trade for Chicago Bears pass rusher Khalil Mack. In doing so, they have formed one of the best pass-rushing duos in the NFL with Mack and Joey Bosa. If that weren’t enough, they landed the best cornerback on the market in J.C. Jackson and added depth on the defensive line with the other two. Gerald Everett is a massive upgrade over aging veteran Jared Cook, and the Chargers still have the 17th overall pick in the draft to add another key piece. To sum it up, the Chargers brought in a ton of weapons and addressed their biggest needs on defense while keeping Williams in town and adding a quality tight end. On top of that, they haven’t lost much this offseason, and Mack essentially replaces Nwosu on the edge. The Chargers missed the playoffs last year, thanks to the Raiders edging them out in a thrilling Week 18 game. But make no mistake, this team is going all-in for a Super Bowl run, and they are expected to be the top contender in the AFC West and can even make a run for the entire conference if things go their way. 2. Kansas City Chiefs Key Additions: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Ronald Jones, Justin Reid, Marquez Valdes-Scantling Key Departures: Tyreek Hill, Tyrann Mathieu, Austin Blythe, Charvarius Ward, Byron Pringle, Demarcus Robinson The Kansas City Chiefs can quickly go from the AFC West division winners in 2021 to the bottom of the division in 2022. That is how topsy-turvy this division is. The loss of Tyreek Hill is a massive one for them, and they also saw wide receivers Demarcus Robinson and Byron Pringle leave. But, they brought in JuJu Smith-Schuster and Marquez Valdes-Scantling in a revamped WR room, so there is some hope. The Chiefs also let Tyrann Mathieu walk, and he remains unsigned as of March 31. Justin Reid is an excellent replacement for Mathieu, but losing him, Hill, and Charvarius Ward in the same offseason are tough losses. Nonetheless, it is hard to count against a team that still has Mahomes and Travis Kelce, not to mention a defense that was much improved down the stretch in 2021. Until Mahomes slows down, the Chiefs will be competitive, but the loss of Hill is more than enough to kick them out of the top spot of this division — and it could derail them altogether. 3. Denver Broncos Key Additions: Russell Wilson, Randy Gregory, Alex Singleton Key Departures: Noah Fant, Shelby Harris The Broncos missed out on Rodgers but wasted no time acquiring Wilson in a massive trade with the Seattle Seahawks. For years, Denver has been playing quarterback hot potato, and they finally solved those issues by landing Wilson. That is a massive get, and bringing on Randy Gregory is a significant addition for their defense, even if the contract is a little questionable. Those moves are enormous bonuses, but the Broncos still have question marks. How will Wilson fit in with first-year head coach Nathaniel Hackett? How will the wide receivers in Denver perform? All three of Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, and Tim Patrick have been on and off during their NFL careers, although a large part of that could be due to the quarterback limbo in the Mile High City. It is also worth noting that Wilson is coming off a hand injury that bothered him a ton in his final year with the Seahawks, although he should be ready to roll with new threads for the first time in his career. The Broncos are making the playoffs, assuming everything goes as planned, and could be on top of this division. 4. Las Vegas Raiders Key Additions: Davante Adams, Chandler Jones, Brandon Bolden, Rock Ya-Sin, Demarcus Robinson Key Departures: Yannick Ngakoue, Zay Jones, Alec Ingold, Casey Hayward, Brandon Facyson, Cory Littleton, Marcus Mariota The Raiders might be a surprise at this spot on the rankings. But, let’s explain. The blockbuster trade of Davante Adams was a stunning move for the entire NFL, and the reunion of Derek Carr and Adams is a welcomed sight. The former Fresno State pairing finally gets to play together in the NFL and hopefully for a long time, if Carr and the Raiders can ink a long-term deal. The addition of Chandler Jones is a big one, and pairing him with Maxx Crosby is a dangerous duo. Rock Ya-Sin was an excellent trade acquisition, and Brandon Bolden is a solid change of pace back familiar with Josh McDaniels’ system. However, the Raiders have failed to address their most pressing need: the offensive line. The Raiders don’t have a first or second-round pick due to the Adams trade, and there is no question they need help upfront to protect Carr. That is a significant concern, and the secondary in Las Vegas is also somewhat of a problem. There is no doubt the offense got better with the addition of Adams, but the patchy offensive line might be a troubling factor in Sin City. On the other hand, the Raiders have a path to another playoff trip, and who knows, this looks more and more like three teams make the playoffs from the AFC West. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________
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