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Old 10-10-2010, 08:41 PM  
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Disappointed in McCluster

Bla bla bla, he's a playmaker, he has two touchdowns already, whatever.

He has seven catches for 93 yards. 1/3 of that yardage came on one play. At least two of those are screen passes I believe.

That ****ing sucks.

This guy needs to be a threat as a WIDE RECEIVER. He hasnt made a single play down the field. I'm not even talking 20 yards. How about 10? How about coming off the line, putting your foot in the ground, getting open and giving Cassel a target?

I'm not willing to accept the idea that Cassel is so god awful he makes all our wide receivers look terrible.

McCluster hasn't done shit yet. And he was utter garbage in Indy.

Don't buy any of his ****ing t-shirts.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:10 PM   #1396
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Dee Ford. I have a feeling he's going to be pretty ****ing good. Not basing it on anything more than a gut feeling. Honestly, I have watched maybe 3 NFL games of Bridgewater so I might be off base, but I just really don't see it. I think he'll prove to be a flash in the pan.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:13 PM   #1397
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I'd like to draft a good QB just as much as anyone but there are several teams out there that have proven drafting QB's just because they are QB's isn't a winning formula ...

Since 2010 there have been what ... 2 franchise QBs drafted? Luck and Wilson? And this board hates one of them? Interesting
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:22 PM   #1398
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This is how I would have ranked the players available in the second round of the 2011 NFL Draft - after McCluster was picked:

Rob Gronkowski
Zane Beadles
TJ Ward
Linval Joseph
Jason Worrilds
Daryl Washington
Carlos Dunlap
Brandon Spikes
Golden Tate
Koa Misi
Sean Lee
Lamarr Houston
Nate Allen
Ben Tate
Toby Gerhart
Dexter McCluster

So, actually, I would have 15 dudes above McCluster. (And the humorous part is the three guys that most of the CP collective were screaming the loudest for - Terrance Cody, Taylor Mays and the nefarious Jimmy Clausen, have probably had the worst careers of the second rounders in that draft.)
Who the **** screamed for Mays outside of Mecca? He wouldn't of done it either if Mays went anywhere else besides USC.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:26 PM   #1399
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I'd like to draft a good QB just as much as anyone but there are several teams out there that have proven drafting QB's just because they are QB's isn't a winning formula ...

Since 2010 there have been what ... 2 franchise QBs drafted? Luck and Wilson? And this board hates one of them? Interesting
Which is why I advocated biding our time with a Carson Palmer or Ryan Fitzpatrick in 2013. Try again in 2014.

It turns out a pretty damn good QB was available to us in 2014. Whattaya know? If you're not a scared bitch franchise, it's possible for you, too, to have a young franchise QB!
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:33 PM   #1400
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I'm starting to think we could have a topic about the Queen of England and it would eventually devolve into a topic about quarterbacks.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:38 PM   #1401
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I'm starting to think we could have a topic about the Queen of England and it would eventually devolve into a topic about quarterbacks.
Well...how's her deep ball?
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:39 PM   #1402
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I'd like to draft a good QB just as much as anyone but there are several teams out there that have proven drafting QB's just because they are QB's isn't a winning formula ...

Since 2010 there have been what ... 2 franchise QBs drafted? Luck and Wilson? And this board hates one of them? Interesting
Wilson sucks.
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Old 08-23-2015, 11:46 PM   #1403
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In case you werent aware, Dex is also fast, and capable of 'taking one to the house'.
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I'm starting to think we could have a topic about the Queen of England and it would eventually devolve into a topic about quarterbacks.
I don't have any problems with Hootie, but I hope he realizes that for all the bitching he's done the past few days about the state of football conversation on this board, he was just single-handedly responsible for dragging a perfectly fine football conversation into that muck.

We had a lovely thread going here. We were all participating in an activity that's fun for the whole family-- taking a giant shit on Pioli and Pioli minions. Then Hootie with his big ol' baseball brain said, "I'm Hootie! I like the Royals! I have evolved beyond football threads on Chiefs Planet because I'm such a genius who has no time for Alex Smith debates!" Then he took our fun anti-Pioli arts and crafts and said, "This looks like shit because Geno Smith."

And boom. QB debate. The thing he ****ing hates more than anything in the world besides being sober. And he went there because he can't ****ing get over how the Chiefs aren't the Royals and how football isn't baseball because he's such a ****ing sports mind, you see!
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People suck Lucks dick but we were shit stomping them in that playoff game before everyone on our team decided to get hurt. We were picking him off with ease. And people shit on Wilson. Luck is going to be great no doubt. But I've always been a Wilson fan. But it's crazy how Wilson gets shat on while Luck is the best ever already.
Sounds familiar. Sounds like the 4 INT playoff game Wilson had. Except instead of 4 INTs Luck had 3 and instead of 1 TD he had 4 and instead of 209 yards he had 443.

Luck is better than Wilson. He's behind Rodgers as the best quarterback of this generation.
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I'd like to draft a good QB just as much as anyone but there are several teams out there that have proven drafting QB's just because they are QB's isn't a winning formula ...

Since 2010 there have been what ... 2 franchise QBs drafted? Luck and Wilson? And this board hates one of them? Interesting
Who hates Wilson? He's a good QB. No one other than Saccoppo says otherwise.
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I don't have any problems with Hootie, but I hope he realizes that for all the bitching he's done the past few days about the state of football conversation on this board, he was just single-handedly responsible for dragging a perfectly fine football conversation into that muck.

We had a lovely thread going here. We were all participating in an activity that's fun for the whole family-- taking a giant shit on Pioli and Pioli minions. Then Hootie with his big ol' baseball brain said, "I'm Hootie! I like the Royals! I have evolved beyond football threads on Chiefs Planet because I'm such a genius who has no time for Alex Smith debates!" Then he took our fun anti-Pioli arts and crafts and said, "This looks like shit because Geno Smith."

And boom. QB debate. The thing he ****ing hates more than anything in the world besides being sober. And he went there because he can't ****ing get over how the Chiefs aren't the Royals and how football isn't baseball because he's such a ****ing sports mind, you see!
I quite enjoyed that post.

Hmmmm. Indubitably.
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Old 08-24-2015, 02:30 AM   #1408
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That's pretty bad for #36 overall.

I would expect a player like that to turn into a starter or at least score more than 2 TDs a year.
So what you're saying is that McCluster is a decent 5+ round pick that's played like a shitty 2nd round pick.

I agree.
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This is the main issue with me. DMC performed fine for the type of player he is... a gadget. It's no surprise he's not great at any one thing. But the Chiefs needed starters. Every down type players, not 25 snaps per game type players.

Draft g gadgets is just bad practice in general. At best their impact is pretty small, they're never worth a 2nd contract. Name 5 gadget players that had a big impact in the league. Hell, name 1. Sproles maybe? And has any team ever signed him to a 2nd contract?
But he's not a gadget player. And no coach is going to be successful with him until they realize that. He needs to work every day as a receiver, primarily in 3rd down situations. He's a role player, not a gadget. DAT, unlike McCluster, has the speed and elusiveness to be a gadget option.
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Old 08-24-2015, 06:28 AM   #1410
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But he's not a gadget player. And no coach is going to be successful with him until they realize that. He needs to work every day as a receiver, primarily in 3rd down situations. He's a role player, not a gadget. DAT, unlike McCluster, has the speed and elusiveness to be a gadget option.
Speaking of DAT, thus far in his careee he seems to get hurt quite a bit. Hard to count on a player like that for any substantial contribution. The "gadget" might be that he gets on the field consistently in the first place.
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