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Old 02-11-2019, 02:10 PM   #1
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Von Miller is going to look weird in a Niners uniform.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:25 PM   #2
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Von Miller is going to look weird in a Niners uniform.
Lol what?
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:09 PM   #3
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Lol what?
There is a suggustion floating around that the Cheating Donx are going to trade Miller, plus their # 2 to switch draft places with the 49'ers.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:28 PM   #4
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:30 PM   #5
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This is a huge mistake IMO. I think baseball will snub him when his dumb behind realizes he should have gone to the MLB.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:40 PM   #6
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Osweiler is 6’7”. Russell Wilson is 5’11”. Drew Brees is only 6’. Who would you rather have.

Height is overrated. QBs throw between defenders, not directly over their heads.

Weight is also overrated. A lot of QBs come into the league looking like a street corner teenager. Tom Brady looked like shit.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:43 PM   #7
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Osweiler is 6’7”. Russell Wilson is 5’11”. Drew Brees is only 6’. Who would you rather have.

Height is overrated. QBs throw between defenders, not directly over their heads.

Weight is also overrated. A lot of QBs come into the league looking like a street corner teenager. Tom Brady looked like shit.
If you don’t think being under 5’10” is a legitimate concern, I don’t know what to tell you. The two guys you listed are the exceptions to the rule and even they are significantly taller than Murray.
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Old 02-11-2019, 02:49 PM   #8
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If you don’t think being under 5’10” is a legitimate concern, I don’t know what to tell you. The two guys you listed are the exceptions to the rule and even they are significantly taller than Murray.
Yeah there is a huge difference between 5'8" and 5'10" when it comes to a QB. You habe tall lineman blocking for you and you also have tall pass rushers running at you with their arms up. Being really short is going to make it extremely difficult on him and he will have a hard time seeing down the field and will probably have a ton of batted down passes.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:22 PM   #9
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If you don’t think being under 5’10” is a legitimate concern, I don’t know what to tell you. The two guys you listed are the exceptions to the rule and even they are significantly taller than Murray.
There are a million reasons QBs fail. A good QB will overcome any physical limitation.

Height? Russ/Brees
Strength? Brady
Athleticism? Brady/Manning
Arm strength? Montana
police? Big Ben

My point is that 99% of quarterbacks fail. You can always point to a reason. The reason is that succeeding is a confluence of factors, the ultimate organization and hierarchy of which is totally unknown to even the top experts.

Nobody knows why one QB sucks and another one is amazing. So, they point to the few factors they CAN measure.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:37 PM   #10
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There are a million reasons QBs fail. A good QB will overcome any physical limitation.

Height? Russ/Brees
Strength? Brady
Athleticism? Brady/Manning
Arm strength? Montana
police? Big Ben

My point is that 99% of quarterbacks fail. You can always point to a reason. The reason is that succeeding is a confluence of factors, the ultimate organization and hierarchy of which is totally unknown to even the top experts.

Nobody knows why one QB sucks and another one is amazing. So, they point to the few factors they CAN measure.
I agree with what you’re saying for the most part, but we’re talking about a guy that is well below even Russ/Brees.

That’s a legitimate concern and there’s no other way around it.

Every other good QB you can come up with would be a different QB if they were ****ing 5’8”. To suggest otherwise is foolish.
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Old 02-13-2019, 02:19 AM   #11
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There are a million reasons QBs fail. A good QB will overcome any physical limitation.

Height? Russ/Brees
Strength? Brady
Athleticism? Brady/Manning
Arm strength? Montana
police? Big Ben

My point is that 99% of quarterbacks fail. You can always point to a reason. The reason is that succeeding is a confluence of factors, the ultimate organization and hierarchy of which is totally unknown to even the top experts.

Nobody knows why one QB sucks and another one is amazing. So, they point to the few factors they CAN measure.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:50 PM   #12
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If you don’t think being under 5’10” is a legitimate concern, I don’t know what to tell you. The two guys you listed are the exceptions to the rule and even they are significantly taller than Murray.
Two things... 1) OU's line was HUGE.. bigger than most NFL lines...

2) It's a DIFFERENT game. QB's don't get hit like they used to.
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:07 PM   #13
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Two things... 1) OU's line was HUGE.. bigger than most NFL lines...

2) It's a DIFFERENT game. QB's don't get hit like they used to.
It's true that QBs don't get hit like they used to. Unless they run. Which Murray does. A lot.
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:10 PM   #14
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Osweiler is 6’7”. Russell Wilson is 5’11”. Drew Brees is only 6’. Who would you rather have.

Height is overrated. QBs throw between defenders, not directly over their heads.

Weight is also overrated. A lot of QBs come into the league looking like a street corner teenager. Tom Brady looked like shit.
It is hard to see where to throw that ball when you are trying to look through 10+ players at the widest part of their bodies. If he needs to throw into the flat he is going to have to lob that ball over the players, making that ball easier and more likely to get intercepted. It is going to be much harder for a short person to use the screen game also.
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It is hard to see where to throw that ball when you are trying to look through 10+ players at the widest part of their bodies. If he needs to throw into the flat he is going to have to lob that ball over the players, making that ball easier and more likely to get intercepted. It is going to be much harder for a short person to use the screen game also.
You act like he hasn't played with tall linemen already wtf lol
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