Football Hardman to the Jets - Page 19

RunKC · 03-22-2023, 12:30 PM

Source: Mecole Hardman has agreed to terms with the #Jets on a one-year deal. More speed for Cleveland’s offense. pic.twitter.com/yNw9If2Wc7
— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) March 22, 2023

RunKC · 03-26-2023, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

That has to be a typo, no?

1 year $1.5m? I would pay that for him even if I knew for a fact that he’d be the exact same player this year as last AND was going to miss half the season. That is peanuts for probably the best gadget guy in the NFL.

And yet they didn’t. From the looks of Mecole’s presser they didn’t even offer him a contract to come back.

That says a lot

Hammock Parties · 03-26-2023, 09:09 AM

dude is trash who's success was created by the greatness of andy and patrick

Mecole Hardman’s deal with the #Jets is really just 1-year, $1.5 million… https://t.co/Z93ZowYDXz
— Devon Clements (@DevclemNFL) March 26, 2023

Rainbarrel · 03-26-2023, 09:13 AM

Not making time to go to Texas to work with PMII and the other WRs until Hill left. Was him putting the nail in his own coffin

RunKC · 03-26-2023, 09:14 AM

This was said right after they drafted Skyy Moore. Pretty direct shot at Mecole..

I asked assistant GM Mike Borgonzi what Skyy Moore brings to Chiefs that they might have lacked at WR: "He's dependable. He's going to run the right route and he's going to catch the ball.''
— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) April 30, 2022

scho63 · 03-26-2023, 09:19 AM

Hardman is another player who's TRUE value was substantially BELOW what he perceived it to be.

Just like OBJ and several other Chiefs.

Patrick has that effect.

PAChiefsGuy · 03-26-2023, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

That has to be a typo, no?

1 year $1.5m? I would pay that for him even if I knew for a fact that he’d be the exact same player this year as last AND was going to miss half the season. That is peanuts for probably the best gadget guy in the NFL.

He's a speed guy. No disrespect to Hardman but Chiefs probably feel they can draft a WR who can do what he does and might have more upside.

We will see if they are right. A little risky but Veach/Reid have earned our trust.

You also have to consider that having Mahomes makes it easier to take some chances w these types of things.

TwistedChief · 03-26-2023, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

dude is trash who's success was created by the greatness of andy and patrick

Mecole Hardman’s deal with the #Jets is really just 1-year, $1.5 million… https://t.co/Z93ZowYDXz
— Devon Clements (@DevclemNFL) March 26, 2023

This person is wrong.

His base salary is ~1mm. He then gets a 3mm signing bonus. Then there are the incentives.

Why are you guys so desperate to jump on Hardman and call him trash? The guy was nothing but a good member of our team. Such clownish behavior.

**The Franchise** · 03-26-2023, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

This person is wrong.

His base salary is ~1mm. He then gets a 3mm signing bonus. Then there are the incentives.

Why are you guys so desperate to jump on Hardman and call him trash? The guy was nothing but a good member of our team. Such clownish behavior.

First time?

-King- · 03-26-2023, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96

[/B]
No one wants to believe that. Three years ago much of CP decided Hardman couldn't run any routes, that he has bad hands, couldn't get in sync with Pat, and whatever other nonsense the detractors invented.

Didn't matter that you could watch any Chiefs highlight reel and literally watch Hardman track the ball well and make good catches deep downfield. Over and over.

Didn't matter last season when he repeatedly ran solid routes (not great ones, but good enough) and not only got himself open in a traditional WR route, but made some great grabs under duress with DBs draped all over him.

Didn't matter when he showed that he could find the soft spot in a zone fairly consistently, or improv when Pat scrambled and find s soft spot extemporaneously. And make tough catches as he was getting crushed by defenders.

Hardman's fate was decided in 2020 as far as CP was concerned. "He's just a jet-sweep gadget player!!!"

He had to go elsewhere to change that narrative.

Nah it was decided when the coaches demoted him from #2 WR last year and made him a gadget guy themselves and he had the 2nd lowest yards before catch in the league.

OKchiefs · 03-26-2023, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

This was said right after they drafted Skyy Moore. Pretty direct shot at Mecole..

I asked assistant GM Mike Borgonzi what Skyy Moore brings to Chiefs that they might have lacked at WR: "He's dependable. He's going to run the right route and he's going to catch the ball.''
— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) April 30, 2022

The results from 2022 season show that so far he’s cut from the same cloth as Hardman.

OKchiefs · 03-26-2023, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96

[/B]
No one wants to believe that. Three years ago much of CP decided Hardman couldn't run any routes, that he has bad hands, couldn't get in sync with Pat, and whatever other nonsense the detractors invented.

Didn't matter that you could watch any Chiefs highlight reel and literally watch Hardman track the ball well and make good catches deep downfield. Over and over.

Didn't matter last season when he repeatedly ran solid routes (not great ones, but good enough) and not only got himself open in a traditional WR route, but made some great grabs under duress with DBs draped all over him.

Didn't matter when he showed that he could find the soft spot in a zone fairly consistently, or improv when Pat scrambled and find s soft spot extemporaneously. And make tough catches as he was getting crushed by defenders.

Hardman's fate was decided in 2020 as far as CP was concerned. "He's just a jet-sweep gadget player!!!"

He had to go elsewhere to change that narrative.

If everything you said is true I imagine that would be a valuable player that KC would have made a significant effort to keep…

Kiimo · 03-26-2023, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

The results from 2022 season show that so far he’s cut from the same cloth as Hardman.

man what? Rookies make mistakes. Hardman never got better about them and almost refused to address it and if you follow him on social media there's practically zero brain activity going on at most times.

Saying Skyy is cut from the same cloth is pretty ridiculous. Hell he scored a touchdown in the SB and everyone immediately blamed him for lining up wrong when it was Kelce.

Is Kelce cut from the same cloth as Mecole?

OKchiefs · 03-26-2023, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch

I don't think he's very bright. Hill isn't very bright either. I don't say that to insult anyone I'm just pointing out that isn't one of the strengths of either one of these gentlemen. They play a game of emotion and then transition to a money business in the off season that's about the numbers and isn't personal. But people who give their all and learn how to play a selfless team sport will take it personal. They're human.

I think Hardman wanted to be emotionless and professional and not say the wrong thing but he's just not "quick on his feet." He's not much of a communicator. If I'm right about any of this the best thing he could have done would be let his agent handle this and stay out of it. Sounds like he did or he at least wants it to sound like he did.

Not many dudes come out and admit "I gave it my all, I loved 'er, but she didn't want me." They may say she's a cheating whore or blame money issues but one person always loves the other a little more. That's just how it is. People move on - business definitely does. It's hard when you're the one in that position.

The difference is Hill has a better work ethic than just about anyone. Hardman is better known for bowling or Twitch streaming than putting in the extra work. If Hardman had Hill’s work ethic he would be a hell of a lot better.

**The Franchise** · 03-26-2023, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

man what? Rookies make mistakes. Hardman never got better about them and almost refused to address it and if you follow him on social media there's practically zero brain activity going on at most times.

Saying Skyy is cut from the same cloth is pretty ridiculous. Hell he scored a touchdown in the SB and everyone immediately blamed him for lining up wrong when it was Kelce.

Is Kelce cut from the same cloth as Mecole?

It’s OKChiefs. He’s a Debbie downer and an idiot.

**Shiver Me Timbers** · 03-26-2023, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

dude is trash who's success was created by the greatness of andy and patrick

Truest words spoken in this thread. He was probably the dumbest person on the team. I'm surprised he actually knew any routes.

03-22-2023, 12:30 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2149611	Hardman to the Jets Source: Mecole Hardman has agreed to terms with the #Jets on a one-year deal. More speed for Cleveland’s offense. pic.twitter.com/yNw9If2Wc7 — Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) March 22, 2023
Posts: 46,184

03-26-2023, 09:09 AM	#272
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4610478	dude is trash who's success was created by the greatness of andy and patrick Mecole Hardman’s deal with the #Jets is really just 1-year, $1.5 million… https://t.co/Z93ZowYDXz — Devon Clements (@DevclemNFL) March 26, 2023 __________________ Chiefs game films
Posts: 278,239

03-26-2023, 09:13 AM	#273
Rainbarrel MVP Join Date: Mar 2021 Casino cash: $2710400	Not making time to go to Texas to work with PMII and the other WRs until Hill left. Was him putting the nail in his own coffin
Posts: 8,106

03-26-2023, 09:14 AM	#274
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2149611	This was said right after they drafted Skyy Moore. Pretty direct shot at Mecole.. I asked assistant GM Mike Borgonzi what Skyy Moore brings to Chiefs that they might have lacked at WR: "He's dependable. He's going to run the right route and he's going to catch the ball.'' — Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) April 30, 2022 __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
Posts: 46,184

03-26-2023, 09:19 AM	#275
scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $2671110	Hardman is another player who's TRUE value was substantially BELOW what he perceived it to be. Just like OBJ and several other Chiefs. Patrick has that effect. __________________ *"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!"* ~Redd Foxx~ ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
Posts: 50,598