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Old 01-20-2019, 10:45 PM  
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Tom Brady now has more SB appearances than any team

In the history of the ****ing league other than of course the one he plays for...

Yea NFL, salary cap and parity really doing a great job there.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:29 PM   #61
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I know its a stupid take but I don't think Brady is the most talented player, just one of the smartest players and he was lucky enough to have THE best head coach in the history of the NFL. Put Brady with the Browns or the Raiders, etc he is a good QB, maybe even gets to a superbowl in his career. The fact that you take a good QB and pair with the best head coach is lethal.

Were we a better team this year? Absolutly, player talent, we kill them, but we were simply out coached, plain and simple. From a arm talent standpoint he was at best a B+, but I'd never and I think most would never rate him as an A for talent, but if focused, wants to win and is mentally smart.

But even if you said you can have a 23 year old Brady or Mahomes I literally wouldn't think more than 1 second who I'd rather have. Brady + Hoodie = best of all time, Brady with average head coach = a better version of Brad Johnson
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:29 PM   #62
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Think of it like this... believe my math is accuate.

An AFC team has won the SB 24 times with 11 SB winning QBs.
Brad X5, Bradshaw X4, Elway, Manning, Plunkett, Griese, Roethlisberger all X2 - that's 7 QBs accounting for 19 titles. Followed by Flacco, Stabler, Dilfer, Unitas

Crazy

Patriots, Steelers, Broncos, Raiders, Colts, Dolphins, Ravens ... 7 teams, right?

**edited** got ahead of myself by including Jets/Chiefs
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:41 PM   #63
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So we have another 3-5 years of this shit? It’s getting really old. We all get it, they’re the best ever. Can we please move on?


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Why would Brady retire anytime soon? I'm pretty sure the Cheatriots O-line hasn't been called for holding since Bledsoe was the QB. Defenses aren't allowed to breathe on him without a bogus roughing the passer call. And he gets to sleepwalk through a weak AFC and the most pitiful division in sports. He could play into his 50s at this rate.

Why would Belicheat retire anytime soon? He can cheat all he wants and get away with it with only a slap on the wrist at most. Spygate and Deflategate proves it. He can continue to add to his phony legacy with more tainted titles.

No matter what happens in the Super Bowl, we're stuck with this fraudulent "dynasty" for years to come. That's the sad part.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:44 PM   #64
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This year you could see the drop off in arm ability with Brady, this is his swan song. Mark the tape.
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Old 01-21-2019, 10:46 PM   #65
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This year you could see the drop off in arm ability with Brady, this is his swan song. Mark the tape.
This has been said every year for years now and it hasn't been true yet.
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This year you could see the drop off in arm ability with Brady, this is his swan song. Mark the tape.
They know that. He gets rid of the ball quickly and only around 10% of his passes are longer than 15 yards downfield.

They are hiding his declining velocity very well.
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I know its a stupid take but I don't think Brady is the most talented player, just one of the smartest players and he was lucky enough to have THE best head coach in the history of the NFL. Put Brady with the Browns or the Raiders, etc he is a good QB, maybe even gets to a superbowl in his career. The fact that you take a good QB and pair with the best head coach is lethal.

Were we a better team this year? Absolutly, player talent, we kill them, but we were simply out coached, plain and simple. From a arm talent standpoint he was at best a B+, but I'd never and I think most would never rate him as an A for talent, but if focused, wants to win and is mentally smart.

But even if you said you can have a 23 year old Brady or Mahomes I literally wouldn't think more than 1 second who I'd rather have. Brady + Hoodie = best of all time, Brady with average head coach = a better version of Brad Johnson
Look at the rushing stats and line play. The Patriots have talent in the trenches. Fat guys who open running lanes. Fat guys who stuff the run. We have neither

Chiefs have better skill players, Pats have better fat guys. And better defensive players

Hope the Chiefs get better fat guys for 2019. We need them
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Less TD's More Picks, arm looking more noodle like. Again this is it for him, no way he's back. No way.
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Just saw the story on the Chiefs fan using a lazer in the stands. Didn't work.
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Think of it like this... believe my math is accuate.

An AFC team has won the SB 26 times with 13 SB winning QBs.
Brad X5, Bradshaw X4, Elway, Manning, Plunkett, Griese, Roethlisberger all X2 - that's 7 QBs accounting for 19 titles. Followed by Flaco, Stabler, Dawson, Dilfer, Unitas and Namath.

Crazy

Patriots, Steelers, Broncos, Raiders, Colts, Dolphins, Ravens, Chiefs, Jets... 9 teams, right?
Chiefs and Jets were not AFC teams yet. Our SBs were before 1970 merger
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Chiefs and Jets were not AFC teams yet. Our SBs were before 1970 merger
Duly noted... (dammit)...

Steelers (6)
Patriots (5)
Broncos (3)
Raiders (3)
Dolphins (2)
Colts (2)
Ravens (2)

If you're not counting KC/Jets because it's pre-NFL, you have 7 franchises that have all the SB titles.

NFC has...
Cowboys (5)
49ers (5)
Packers (4)
Giants (4)
Redskins (3)

12 teams have the bulk of the hardware.
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