Let's Talk About the Bills (AFC Championship Edition)

[cmh6476]

They're pretty good

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Matter2003

When you actually understand what you are watching, it helps. Maybe go watch some in depth breakdowns of the game that are out there because clearly you struggle with that aspect.

Anyone that disagrees with your take didn't "watch the game".

Weak sauce.

I watched two QB's play poorly. Allen will need to do a lot better than 1 TD drive this weekend to take out KC.

[Matter2003]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Anyone that disagrees with your take didn't "watch the game".

Weak sauce.

I watched two QB's play poorly. Allen will need to do a lot better than 1 TD drive this weekend to take out KC.

Watching and understanding are two different things. Anyone who thought the Ravens ran effectively clearly didn't watch the same game.

Allen played OK, Ravens coverage was really great for most of the game, especially Humphrey, who might have been the best player on the field that game.

I would expect Allen plays one of his best games of the year Sunday.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Matter2003

Watching and understanding are two different things. Anyone who thought the Ravens ran effectively clearly didn't watch the same game.

Allen played OK, Ravens coverage was really great for most of the game, especially Humphrey, who might have been the best player on the field that game.

I would expect Allen plays one of his best games of the year Sunday.

I didn't say they ran effectively. They SHOULD have been able to. If you actually read what I wrote you would have not missed that. You are arguing with someone else.

Ravens coverage-They have very good corners. I don't think their plan was terrible but it wasn't A work either. Lots of man, some zone. Not much pressure. They showed the pressure and bailed which is good but they never actually went through with it enough.

That makes the show pressure/bail less effective.

Chiefs destroy those corners with our weapons.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Buffalo's yards/game vs AFC playoff teams: 298

KC: 474 (including a half without Mahomes)

But tell us more about how well they compare offensively.

[Sassy Squatch]

Meh. Buffalo clearly adjusted and shut the Ravens down after getting obliterated that first drive.

I do have to laugh at the idea that Baltimore just needs a WR1 for Jackson like I've been seeing recently, though. Had a wide open Brown in the end zone and misfired badly, then threw the game clinching pick 6. The desperation of the media for Jackson to be successful is baffling.

[FloridaMan88]

Same ref that worked the Chiefs Super Bowl win last year... Bill Vinovich will be the ref for Sunday's game.

No Clitoris Blakeman.

Thank you Jesus.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Buffalo's yards/game vs AFC playoff teams: 298

KC: 474 (including a half without Mahomes)

But tell us more about how well they compare offensively.

Buffalo fans will mention KC won by only 5 points.

I'm serious.

[htismaqe]

The Ravens defense held Josh Allen to 206 yards and 1 TD. QBR of 51.

Last year? 147 yards, 1 TD, and a 16.7 QBR. And in 2018? 74 yards, 0 TD's, and a QBR of 37.

Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes put up 385 yards, 4 TD's, and a near perfect 98.5 QBR on the Ravens earlier this year.

Last year? 374 yards, 3 TD, and an 86.5 QBR. And in 2018? 377 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT, and a 59.7 QBR.

Mahomes' worst game against that Baltimore defense is significantly better than Allen's best game against that defense.

I told everyone the Browns wouldn't score 30 points against the Chiefs. They didn't even break 20. I'll hold off predictions for now but if Buffalo fans think Allen is going to outscore Patrick ****ing Mahomes, they're kidding themselves.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

Meh. Buffalo clearly adjusted and shut the Ravens down after getting obliterated that first drive.

I do have to laugh at the idea that Baltimore just needs a WR1 for Jackson like I've been seeing recently, though. Had a wide open Brown in the end zone and misfired badly, then threw the game clinching pick 6. The desperation of the media for Jackson to be successful is baffling.

Yep.

[Rukdafaidas]

Will Kilgore start at C this week for the Chiefs?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Matter2003

Stats without context are meaningless. Lazy use of them by you.

32 of the yards came by their backup QB down 14. 20 of those came on a 3rd and 32 from their own 1 yard line. Those yards were useless. They were already down 17-3.

So when the game was in the balance, the Ravens ran for 118 yards, and for an average of about 4.1 YPC. Both well below their averages for the year. If you watched the game, other than 4 runs that gained a total of about 60 yards(literally the first 3 plays of the first drive and 1 a 15 yard scramble by Jackson on a 3rd and 14 later in the game), they did almost nothing running the ball. They were not able to consistently move the ball and constantly were in 3rd and long all game where they cannot really operate well.

That was a masterclass on defense on how to shut that offense down. They scored 3 points.

Selective discounting of stats on a regular basis makes you like like a ****ing idiot. So, running for a 120 yards on "meaningful carries" is not doing exactly what they should have? You were outgained more than that in total yards and only put up 220 on offense. You should have been blown off the field. The Ravens lost to their own stupidity, not to the Bills somehow being good at anything that game.

[KChiefs1]

I know this game didn’t count according to Bills fans but I do find the stats interesting.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Selective discounting of stats on a regular basis makes you like like a ****ing idiot. So, running for a 120 yards on "meaningful carries" is not doing exactly what they should have? You were outgained more than that in total yards and only put up 220 on offense. You should have been blown off the field. The Ravens lost to their own stupidity, not to the Bills somehow being good at anything that game.

They're EXACTLY like Patriot fans.

Nothing before week 10 matters.

Weather.

QB's non-throwing shoulder was hurt.

They've got a million excuses and exceptions when it comes to stats. They don't want to talk about anything in context, they want to reframe every argument to fit their agenda.

They claim they're here "just to talk football" when it's obvious that's not what they want at all.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

The more that I think about it, expect the public to be on the over but I think this game is an under.

Bills were terrified of our passing game last time. I think they continue to keep safeties deep forcing us to grab 5 to 7 yards a carry and hit passes in the middle of the field.

On defense I think Spags will have the false reads ready to play with Allen's head along with even more exotic pressure looks to consider.

All this adds up to low scoring.

We need to contain Allen to his right, and force him left. He is a much better playmaker, excellent in fact, when scrambling to his right, good, but much less effective to his left. His big plays tend to come when he is forced to his right outside the pocket. As I have said before, force him to his left like a Jr. High point guard...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

We need to contain Allen to his right, and force him left. He is a much better playmaker, excellent in fact, when scrambling to his right, good, but much less effective to his left. His big plays tend to come when he is forced to his right outside the pocket. As I have said before, force him to his left like a Jr. High point guard...

Our DE's aren't great at pass rushing but they're pretty good at containment. That's what I'd do too.