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Old 01-30-2013, 11:43 AM   #1
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If you have to afford being tipped to make a living, you can't afford working as a waiter. Is 20% the new 10%? I always tip around 15% and I thought it was higher than most. Still, I think tipping is stupid. I think of all the times I have tipped in my life and think back on if I never tipped in my entire life how much better it would be and how much more money I would have.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:43 AM   #2
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If you have to afford being tipped to make a living, you can't afford working as a waiter. Is 20% the new 10%? I always tip around 15% and I thought it was higher than most. Still, I think tipping is stupid. I think of all the times I have tipped in my life and think back on if I never tipped in my entire life how much better it would be and how much more money I would have.
If it were not for servers, you would'nt be able to take your spouse out to a fancy restaurant to wine & dine her. You'd be in line at McDonalds
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:52 AM   #3
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If it were not for servers, you would'nt be able to take your spouse out to a fancy restaurant to wine & dine her. You'd be in line at McDonalds
Not true. Places like Pei Wei etc are awesome to me. I wish fancy restaurants worked that way. I don't give two shits if there is someone there to suck up to me. I like places where I order, I sit down, and they clean up my table when I'm done. No tips, and still a pleasant experience. Waiters and waitresses is really a pointless occupation IMO. I'm sure many think it's cool to have a waiter, but I do not care either way.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:46 AM   #4
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If you have to afford being tipped to make a living, you can't afford working as a waiter. Is 20% the new 10%? I always tip around 15% and I thought it was higher than most. Still, I think tipping is stupid. I think of all the times I have tipped in my life and think back on if I never tipped in my entire life how much better it would be and how much more money I would have.
You can stop tipping when waiters get paid a living wage instead of $3 an hour.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:47 AM   #5
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You can stop tipping when waiters get paid a living wage instead of $3 an hour.
No, you can stop tipping whenever you want.

Just like the waiters can work somewhere that pays a steady normal wage.

Disclaimer: I don't support not tipping, but I support one's right to not tip.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:48 AM   #6
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No, you can stop tipping whenever you want.

Just like the waiters can work somewhere that pays a steady normal wage.

Disclaimer: I don't support not tipping, but I support one's right to not tip.
Then you can serve yourself next time you go to a restaurant. See how that works?
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:53 AM   #7
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No, you can stop tipping whenever you want.

Just like the waiters can work somewhere that pays a steady normal wage.

Disclaimer: I don't support not tipping, but I support one's right to not tip.
Of course it's your choice but, if you don't tip, restaurant owners wont be able to hire good servers unless they pay a living wage. The only way they can make up the extra payroll it to raise their prices, which means you wont have a choice, you pay more.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:54 AM   #8
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No, you can stop tipping whenever you want.

Just like the waiters can work somewhere that pays a steady normal wage.

Disclaimer: I don't support not tipping, but I support one's right to not tip.
I'm sorry, but where? where else can they find a job? can they afford to lose the job they currently have and find one in time before they run out of money they saved? Whats the current unemployment %? Easier said than done. You make it sound like people have other options that can be easily achieved.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:40 PM   #9
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No, you can stop tipping whenever you want.

Just like the waiters can work somewhere that pays a steady normal wage.

Disclaimer: I don't support not tipping, but I support one's right to not tip.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:48 AM   #10
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You can stop tipping when waiters get paid a living wage instead of $3 an hour.
Of course that wage will be reflected in the bill. It's a wash so, just tip the people
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:49 AM   #11
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Of course that wage will be reflected in the bill. It's a wash so, just tip the people
Yes, you pay one way or the other. If you refuse to tip a normal amount, you are just screwing over the help financially.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:54 AM   #12
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Of course that wage will be reflected in the bill. It's a wash so, just tip the people
Or just pay the staff appropriately, I know what my bill will be, and get rid of all this talk......just a thought.

My waiter makes 10 bucks and hour, I know exactly what me bill will be, and if he/she does great...I leave some extra money on the table, if they suck then I don't.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:50 AM   #13
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You can stop tipping when waiters get paid a living wage instead of $3 an hour.

When I'm elected president, this is the first thing that I'm changing. Bring them up to a livable wage and stop this whole tipping insanity.

And it would also mean more tax money for my administration since I bet that servers never report their full tips.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:48 PM   #14
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And it would also mean more tax money for my administration since I bet that servers never report their full tips.
The government taxes servers based on the sales they accrued during their shift. The government takes the total sales from each servers sales report, ASSUMES they make 18% and then taxes them based on that assumption. Most servers make in the 2-3$ range am hour, and by the time they pay taxes on their sales/tips, they usually don't have a check left over. In addition, most end up owing the government at the end of the year. Its actually very easy for the government to track. So trust me, servers are doing their part when it comes to paying taxes.

Do yourself and your server/bartender a favor and tip. Many of these people are young, uneducated people who are trying to finance their way through school, or a single mother who is just trying to feed her kids. Serving also lays a foundation and build skills, such as working with others, customer service, and public speaking, that can be used to excel in all other fields of work.I tip even when the service isn't great, mostly cuz karma is a mofo,and because I appreciate the fact these kids are out hustling and grinding to get by instead of sitting on their behinds.

Quit being cheap mofo's and tip 20%, and know that you made a difference in someones life, probably put food on the table of some kid or clothes on his/her back, or helped pay for a textbook for some kid who can't get financial aid.
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If you have to afford being tipped to make a living, you can't afford working as a waiter. Is 20% the new 10%? I always tip around 15% and I thought it was higher than most. Still, I think tipping is stupid. I think of all the times I have tipped in my life and think back on if I never tipped in my entire life how much better it would be and how much more money I would have.
Seems about right for CP.
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