Peterson Waffling on Surtain

BigChiefFan · 02-28-2005, 10:06 AM

Posted on Mon, Feb. 28, 2005

Surtain

Chiefs consider Surtain

By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star

The Chiefs' search for a cornerback has started with Miami's Patrick Surtain but won't necessarily end there.

President/general manager Carl Peterson talked with the Dolphins this weekend about a trade for Surtain, a two-time Pro Bowler. Complicating matters is that Surtain's contract is heading into its final season and the Chiefs won't make a trade without having him signed for the long term.

Three other veteran cornerbacks, Tennessee's Samari Rolle, Washington's Fred Smoot and Seattle's Ken Lucas, are also on the Chiefs' priority list. Rolle, a favorite of defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham, was released recently by the Titans in a cost-cutting move.

He could visit with the Chiefs as soon as Wednesday.

“It's in the hands of Miami,'' Peterson said of Surtain. “They're looking for a draft choice, and it's also in the hands of the agent, who's looking for a big contract. We've talked, but the number is too big. If it gets reasonable, then fine.''

Surtain played seven seasons for Miami and played in the Pro Bowl after the 2002 and 2003 seasons.

“He's an All-Pro cornerback,'' Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said. “He can play all the variations of coverage. He's a very talented guy. But there's other guys out there, too, and I just don't know right now just how this is going to end up.''

Ty Law, released by New England last week, is not on the Chiefs' priority list, though that could change. Law missed the last half of last season because of a foot injury.

“There's mixed feelings about him,'' Vermeil said. “He's a high-quality player but he's got a long way to go on his rehab.''

The Chiefs plan to tender contract offers to three of their potential restricted free agents. Linebacker Scott Fujita, wide receiver Marc Boerigter and safety Shaunard Harts will receive one-year offers for $656,000.

Each offer would give the Chiefs the right of first refusal if the player signs an offer sheet with another club.

The Chiefs weren't planning to offer a contract to a fourth potential restricted free agent, fullback Omar Easy.

Randy Covitz of The Star's sports staff contributed to this report.

WilliamTheIrish · 02-28-2005, 10:07 AM

Ugh. Carl,

nmt1 · 02-28-2005, 10:07 AM

So now we can't even negotiate with guys?

Dr. Johnny Fever · 02-28-2005, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Complicating matters is that Surtain's contract is heading into its final season and the Chiefs won't make a trade without having him signed for the long term.

I agree with that mindset 100%.

BigChiefFan · 02-28-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wee Todd

I agree with that mindset 100%.

Every team in the NFL would renegotiate the contract before making the trade. I don't see how this complicates matters, we can either sign him or we can't.

nmt1 · 02-28-2005, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Every team in the NFL would renegotiate the contract before making the trade. I don't see how this complicates matters, we can either sign him or we can't.

Shouldn't we try to fit him into our budget?

Dr. Johnny Fever · 02-28-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Every team in the NFL would renegotiate the contract before making the trade. I don't see how this complicates matters, we can either sign him or we can't.

I didn't read anything that said we weren't willing to negotiate. Of course they will negotiate...unless Surtain and his agent aren't willing to. We can't just go signing anyone who is a good player no matter what they want. That would be the stupidest thing to do. There are other fish in the sea if the first guy wants too much.

BigChiefFan · 02-28-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nmt1

So now we can't even negotiate with guys?

I don't mind us negotiating, as long as it doesn't keep us from losing out on other prospects. Looks like Rolle will be off the market soon. Law is injured and the other players aren't as good. So, I think it's fair request that they do this in a timely fashion.

Chiefnj · 02-28-2005, 10:15 AM

How is Peterson waffling? Who knows what the Dolphins are asking for and what kind of contract Surtain has asked for in his initial demands.

**morphius** · 02-28-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I don't mind us negotiating, as long as it doesn't keep us from losing out on other prospects. Looks like Rolle will be off the market soon. Law is injured and the other players aren't as good. So, I think it's fair request that they do this in a timely fashion.

Yup, the one thing you would hate is to have it fall through after everyone else is gone. If last year is any reminder, lots of guys will not make more then one trip and will not be leaving without a deal.

nmt1 · 02-28-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

I don't mind us negotiating, as long as it doesn't keep us from losing out on other prospects. Looks like Rolle will be off the market soon. Law is injured and the other players aren't as good. So, I think it's fair request that they do this in a timely fashion.

They've apparently already talked to Miami about compensation and to Surtain's agent about a contract. How much more timely do you want it?

BigChiefFan · 02-28-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

How is Peterson waffling? Who knows what the Dolphins are asking for and what kind of contract Surtain has asked for in his initial demands.

“It's in the hands of Miami,'' Peterson said of Surtain. “They're looking for a draft choice, and it's also in the hands of the agent, who's looking for a big contract. We've talked, but the number is too big. If it gets reasonable, then fine.''

I consider that waffling.

Eleazar · 02-28-2005, 10:17 AM

But is Rolle available?

Dr. Johnny Fever · 02-28-2005, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

How is Peterson waffling? Who knows what the Dolphins are asking for and what kind of contract Surtain has asked for in his initial demands.

Exactly. The "sky is falling" mentality around here lately is laughable.

nmt1 · 02-28-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

How is Peterson waffling? Who knows what the Dolphins are asking for and what kind of contract Surtain has asked for in his initial demands.

Well considering the CB position now has the highest tender for any veteran franchise player, I expect he's asking a lot.

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