Sick of** Blueprint to Beat Chiefs”

[kczoo]

Effin lame..I mean seriously not as of yet but teams have beaten the Patriots. It wasn’t so easy to go back and watch film and then everyone in the world have the blueprint to beat them. 🤣🤣

[MrCasual]

The ability to get pressure with 4 has been the blueprint to beating every team. Mahomes can make plays with his extraordinary talent but there is no way to sustain it when 4 men can break through an O-line. This is why the pats offense looks like hot turds right now (that and receiver injuries).

[chiefsfan15]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

You're not sure what injuries on offense have to do with stopping the Chiefs? Are you being serious? The reason we lost is not because of the defense. The Chiefs had 9 drives on offense, which is basically their average this year. Is it the Ds fault that the offense scored 13 points or do you think having a hobbled QB, a line that was missing 2 starters and couldn't stop the Colts from chasing around our injured Savior that had a hurt ankle, and our number 1 and 2 starting WR's out had more to do with it?

People tend to get offended by anyone saying anything negative about the offense and take it as an insult towards Mahomes, but that's not what I'm doing whatsoever (I'd let him have his way with me). If that fat worthless piece of literal shit wouldn't have stepped on Mahomes ankle, then we win that game. All the other injuries dont mean shit if Mahomes isn't stepped on. He's that good.

Even this post is last year all over again. The defense embarrasses themselves, usually can get off the field only when opposing offenses makes mistakes or stop themselves with a penalty, and people blame our offense.

If everyone were healthy and playing their best on offense we would be able to outscore many teams, but eventually you will have to rely on your defense in the postseason and they still can’t stop anyone.

The Pats used the “blueprint” on us and we’ve accomplished nothing in fixing it. This season will probably end the same way since even teams like the Ravens, Lions, and Colts have been executing it with some success

It’s about personnel not shuffling deck chairs on defense

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan15

Even this post is last year all over again. The defense embarrasses themselves, usually can get off the field only when opposing offenses makes mistakes or stop themselves with a penalty, and people blame our offense.

If everyone were healthy and playing their best on offense we would be able to outscore many teams, but eventually you will have to rely on your defense in the postseason and they still can’t stop anyone.

The Pats used the “blueprint” on us and we’ve accomplished nothing in fixing it. This season will probably end the same way since even teams like the Ravens, Lions, and Colts have been executing it with some success

It’s about personnel not shuffling deck chairs on defense

Read a great article that talked to mahomes and kelce about beating man coverage. They had specific answers. Think mahomes said the OL needs to get tougher, WRs need to run crisper routes, he needs to be more accurate. That look on mahomes face at the end of the game tells me they're addressing it. But yeah, let's stop making excuses and pretending there aren't things we should be doing much better. I'm really glad we're addressing it because I would bet we see this man blueprint all year long and now we can focus all our energy. With that we'll become better and better equipped to beat new England.

[lcarus]

I laugh when I keep hearing about the "secret blueprint" to beating the Chiefs. Run the ball well, win time of possession, win the turnover battle, score TDs instead of FGs, go for 4th downs when it's reasonable. That's just a blueprint to winning football games period. Every team tries to do that. Just some teams are designed to pass the ball instead of run and some teams are capable of making big plays. But if you could ask Andy Reid if he would rather score on an 80 yard run on the first play of a drive or take 12 plays and 9 minutes, he'd take the 9 minute drive every time. As would any coach. Assuming they aren't behind in the game.

[jaa1025]

It just shows ignorance or watching the game through the box score. If any of these talking head actually watched the game they would note Mahomes injury has taken away his mobility in and out of the pocket, they would note his injured left side of the line, they would note hes been without his top two receivers for the past two games.

[jimidollar]

Originally Posted by lcarus

I always have to remind people that the Patriots lost to the Dolphins last year which blew home field advantage for them essentially.

Yeah, they blew home field advantage. Turns out they didn't need it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by lcarus

I laugh when I keep hearing about the "secret blueprint" to beating the Chiefs. Run the ball well, win time of possession, win the turnover battle, score TDs instead of FGs, go for 4th downs when it's reasonable. That's just a blueprint to winning football games period. Every team tries to do that. Just some teams are designed to pass the ball instead of run and some teams are capable of making big plays. But if you could ask Andy Reid if he would rather score on an 80 yard run on the first play of a drive or take 12 plays and 9 minutes, he'd take the 9 minute drive every time. As would any coach. Assuming they aren't behind in the game.

The main point is that a zone team who ran zone against us just last year ran man almost the entire game. Sure teams play power games all the time. But playing man and chipping away at our receivers is something new. And on that... It's pretty amazing that with all the emphasis on defensive holding and taunting the NFL has been mostly letting defenses get away with it. Kelce is blatantly interfered with on half of our plays.

[B_Ambuehl]

The football team is 17-0 over the last 2 seasons when the opponent possesses the ball less than 33 minutes.

The football team is 1-6 over the last 2 seasons when the opponent possesses the ball more than 33 minutes, and the 1 game they won the opponent fumbled the football away twice inside the chiefs 10.

So yeah the blueprint to beat the chiefs is pretty reliable. Control the pace and control the clock.

Man vs Zone D probably doesn't matter that much. This football team has only lost 2 games against teams that played predominately man, the rest played zone. **



** Belichik played zone in the 1st game

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Blueprint to beat KC:

-Have all of their starting WRs injured

-Have their left side of the line completely depleted

-Have a hurt Patrick Mahomes

-Have some injuries on defense

-Have Andy Reid willingly bench the best running back

-Hope Andy decides passing every down with all back up skill players will work

- Also hope the only skill player not injured (Kelce) will drop passes and have a bad game

A lot of this 'blueprint' is reliant on things the opposing team doesn't have control over

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan15

Not sure what injuries on offense have to do with anything.

You can run the ball right at the chiefs defense, when they know you’re going to run it, and they can’t stop you. You can control the ball, pile up all kinds of yards, and minimize the number of possessions the chiefs offense gets. All you have to do is execute the plan.

And if you do decide to throw, they can’t get pressure on you, especially without Jones, and they can’t cover the wideouts either. Breeland = Scandrick. Ward = Nelson. If any difference makers were added on D they seem to be in disguise. Last year over again.

The chiefs scored 13 points in 9 possessions.

Please stop acting like that's a normal thing you can accomplish by running the ball or that the defensive performance by KC was responsible for it.

It makes you sound like you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Andy shit the bed. He was outcoached pure and simple.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

The chiefs scored 13 points in 9 possessions.

Please stop acting like that's a normal thing you can accomplish by running the ball or that the defensive performance by KC was responsible for it.

It makes you sound like you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Andy shit the bed. He was outcoached pure and simple.

This is a fair point although I think there are some continencies you've overlooked.

The line play was SO POOR that I don't think we could've run the ball had we even tried. They are just getting thrown around right now. I think you could put ME in at LT and the results wouldn't be worse than Erving right now. He's not even slowing anyone down. Wylie's pretty shitty so far, but after he went out there was just a free run to the backfield.

Andy does tend to get too cute, but I don't necessarily disagree with the plan to just put the offense in Mahomes' hands. Some of the sacks and pressure were Patrick not adjusting and just checking down rather than trying to force the ball downfield. There were some swing passes that were there, but his gut tells him to go downfield. He's the Anti-Alex, which is why we love him, but on a bad ankle and missing some explosiveness at the WR position, he needed to speed his own clock up some.

This was a team loss; and while the defense should be held accountable for complete inability to stop the run, the offense also should be held accountable for incredibly shoddy offensive line play, dropped passes, and WR's not consistently beating the man coverage.

Injuries played a part in ALL of that, but Indy had a lot of key injuries as well. They just worked through it all more effectively than we did.

Last week, Frank Reich and his team outcoached Andy and his.
I'm a fan of Andy Reid, but nobody's perfect, not even Belichick.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan15

Not sure what injuries on offense have to do with anything.

You can run the ball right at the chiefs defense, when they know you’re going to run it, and they can’t stop you. You can control the ball, pile up all kinds of yards, and minimize the number of possessions the chiefs offense gets. All you have to do is execute the plan.

And if you do decide to throw, they can’t get pressure on you, especially without Jones, and they can’t cover the wideouts either. Breeland = Scandrick. Ward = Nelson. If any difference makers were added on D they seem to be in disguise. Last year over again.

I'm not saying the d is good, but they're MUCH better in the RZ this year, and are 14th in the league in defensive PPG.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

1) Injure one to three of their top offensive weapons and LT.
2) Apply constant pressure on Mahomes from all sides.
3) Hope for penalties

It’s easy.

More teams will implement this strategy!

[KChiefs1]

NFL Today guys just spent 10 minutes on the Chiefs & “The Blueprint”.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

This is a fair point although I think there are some continencies you've overlooked.

The line play was SO POOR that I don't think we could've run the ball had we even tried. They are just getting thrown around right now. I think you could put ME in at LT and the results wouldn't be worse than Erving right now. He's not even slowing anyone down. Wylie's pretty shitty so far, but after he went out there was just a free run to the backfield.

Andy does tend to get too cute, but I don't necessarily disagree with the plan to just put the offense in Mahomes' hands. Some of the sacks and pressure were Patrick not adjusting and just checking down rather than trying to force the ball downfield. There were some swing passes that were there, but his gut tells him to go downfield. He's the Anti-Alex, which is why we love him, but on a bad ankle and missing some explosiveness at the WR position, he needed to speed his own clock up some.

This was a team loss; and while the defense should be held accountable for complete inability to stop the run, the offense also should be held accountable for incredibly shoddy offensive line play, dropped passes, and WR's not consistently beating the man coverage.

Injuries played a part in ALL of that, but Indy had a lot of key injuries as well. They just worked through it all more effectively than we did.

Last week, Frank Reich and his team outcoached Andy and his.
I'm a fan of Andy Reid, but nobody's perfect, not even Belichick.

KC ran few misdirections, runs, play action, or screen passes.

It was just straight up drop back passing which puts a TON of pressure on the positions that were filled with back-ups.

IT's about more than just not running, and Yes, McCoy would have had more success than Williams.

Again, Andy does this a few times every season. IT's just that, for whatever reason, this year he decided to do it when we had 4 starters out of the game, an injured QB, a TE having his worst game in years, and a back up 3rd down back we're STILL trying to pretend is a starting HB.

With Mahomes, Watkins, Hill, and Fisher such a strategy is still not ideal (it's never ideal to make yourself that one-dimensional) , but far less likely to spectacularly backfire.