***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by ghak99

A person has a freak accident and passes away. Said person is tested for covid post death and comes back positive. The local health department makes their big "new case" announcement on social media. Small town sheep scour all corners of the planet and the depths of social media hell trying to figure out who the new case is so they can all stay away from that family.

You can't make this shit up.

yes you could..............

[Halfcan]

The second round of Covid will be worth it since the protestors/rioters have stamped out racism now.

Mission Accomplished!!

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

yes you could..............

The god damn stupidity of you conspiracy nuts is unbelievable. You all get online to spout your bullshit, because your families stopped listening to your rambling bullshit long ago. ****ing reeruns.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well, Covid took it's hit on our health system yesterday and now that it's official news I think I am good to somewhat discuss. We had to furlough a number of employees yesterday and many probably will not be brought back.

This is due to the shutting down of elective procedures. The irony is all the steps our genius Governors took to protect hospitals ended up hurting them. I understand the need to shut things down hard at first but it drug out too long and now the very institutions that were to be protected are endangered.

Irony.....

Yeah this wasn't handled well at all but to be fair it was pretty unprecedented. If this ever happens again I think we will be much better prepared

[BigCatDaddy]

Me and Lew are having a huge protest in my back yard. We are protesting against the discrimination of lunks by Planet Fitness. Everyone please come and bring a side dish.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Me and Lew are having a huge protest in my back yard. We are protesting against the discrimination of lunks by Planet Fitness. Everyone please come and bring a side dish.

Did you ever lift at that place off of st joe avenue where the police and firemen would lift? I can't remember the name of it or how I had enough money to pay for a membership because I was 20 or so but there was always some big lunks in there. That place was nothing but big ass dudes.

[JakeLV]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

Jake

Are you serious?

Jail vs Risk

Come On Man
deep state created crisis
you talkin bout risk reward

Your "question" takin with what is going on is ATL and SEA
COMEONMAN

I get it man...

Without revealing too much about myself, I did billing for a physician group out of highschool, and now work for a software company who does CDI/CDE.

Doesn’t make me an expert, but does help color my world view.

It just doesn’t scan for me man.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Dexamethasone isn't going to cut the death toll by 1/3, because a substantial portion of critically ill patients were getting dex in the ICU anyway. It is one of the most commonly administered medications in critical care.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Did you ever lift at that place off of st joe avenue where the police and firemen would lift? I can't remember the name of it or how I had enough money to pay for a membership because I was 20 or so but there was always some big lunks in there. That place was nothing but big ass dudes.

The Gym. I was there for 10 years or so.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

This trial shows the importance that buying time gave the medical community. By not blowing through and trying for herd immunity enough time elapsed that you're finding effective treatments that can further reduce mortality.

[cookster50]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Exactly. More media hype and bullshit. And I want to start seeing breakdowns from the media when they start yapping.

How many are asymptomatic?
How many are mild?
How many are serious?

The media would have you ready to hide in fear over 10 people with little or no symptoms.

Yeah, I saw an article the other day about Branson. They where hyping the fact that the number of cases doubled from what they were in March. But then later in the article it said it went from 12 daily to 24 daily. They made a huge deal about it doubling, but really, 12 to 24?

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/12...719143426?s=21

Good news

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Dexamethasone isn't going to cut the death toll by 1/3, because a substantial portion of critically ill patients were getting dex in the ICU anyway. It is one of the most commonly administered medications in critical care.

So you're saying their study is bunk?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by cookster50

Yeah, I saw an article the other day about Branson. They where hyping the fact that the number of cases doubled from what they were in March. But then later in the article it said it went from 12 daily to 24 daily. They made a huge deal about it doubling, but really, 12 to 24?

The numbers game is a funny one to watch. Our local news station publishes the total case. number daily to try to draw attention to their site. Obviously the total accumulated cases is the biggest scariest number they can use.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Yeah this wasn't handled well at all but to be fair it was pretty unprecedented. If this ever happens again I think we will be much better prepared

Well the point is the people who made that decision are the same people still making the decisions. And they don't seem to be learning much from it nor care much about it to be honest.