Sammy Watkins

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Uh, it's generally accepted common knowledge that Andy Reid's offensive schemes are among the most complicated in the league . . .

This, no clue wtf he's talking about.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

This, no clue wtf he's talking about.

Me neither. Probably from the same talking heads that said that Andy can't read a clock. Basically people that don't understand football on any level past HS. Or think that they know Andy Reid's schemes because they play Madden . . .

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

This, no clue wtf he's talking about.

Aspen is actually one of the few posters on this board who actually knows X’s and O’s.

[alpha_omega]

Glad he played well for this post season run...but he certainly seems like an "all or nothing" type player.

[Frosty]

I'm with FAX. I think Watkins is an important cog in making Reid's current offense go. Even when he isn't getting targets, he is drawing coverages his way to open up Hill and Kelce (like the Chip Wasp play). We don't currently have someone with his skill set to take his place. Hardman is more of a Hill clone and gadget guy and did nothing during the playoff run. Pringle can probably adequately replace DRob but I don't think he can replace Sammy. That means using draft capital or FA to replace him and then you have the problem of how long it takes WRs to pick up the offense.

If I'm Veach, I do everything I can to figure out a way to sign Watkins long term to a more team friendly deal.

[suzzer99]

Nobody's going to trade anything of value for 1 year of Watkins' bloated salary. Maybe if we extend him to something lower. But presumably that would be him making a team-friendly deal because he wants to stay. So it would be kind of a dick move to trade him.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Nobody's going to trade anything of value for 1 year of Watkins' bloated salary. Maybe if we extend him to something lower. But presumably that would be him making a team-friendly deal because he wants to stay. So it would be kind of a dick move to trade him.

I’d be fine extending him at 11-12m per year, but that’s not going to happen.

Watkins is gone. We just have to hope we get something in return because cutting him shouldn’t be an option.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I’d be fine extending him at 11-12m per year, but that’s not going to happen.

Watkins is gone. We just have to hope we get something in return because cutting him shouldn’t be an option.

so you'd be fine with extending him and paying him an average of 2 million less per year than he's scheduled to get next year but stretching it out longer?


that doesnt make much sense to me.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

so you'd be fine with extending him and paying him an average of 2 million less per year than he's scheduled to get next year but stretching it out longer?


that doesnt make much sense to me.

That would make his first year (this year) cap hit drop by about 10m and keep future hits manageable.

Do that and get Jones inked to 5/90

Cut LDT

Re-sign Wis and Pennel...extend Fish and Kelce to clear space.

Draft well.

Repeat championship and aim for next offseason to get Mahomes done.

The cap is going to explode in the new CBA with tons of new money rolling in.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That would make his first year (this year) cap hit drop by about 10m and keep future hits manageable.

Do that and get Jones inked to 5/90

Cut LDT

Re-sign Wis and Pennel...extend Fish and Kelce to clear space.

Draft well.

Repeat championship and aim for next offseason to get Mahomes done.

The cap is going to explode in the new CBA with tons of new money rolling in.

you’re pushing money.

[BossChief]

Average years, there are 30-40 WRs invited to the scouting combine.

This year there were 55.

Best WR class in a long time.

I like Sammy, but I think Hardman (who is working with Tyreek and his guys this offseason) will be ready for the wr2 role and between Kemp, Fenton, Deiter and a draft pick or 2, the WRs will be just fine.

[suzzer99]

I can definitely see an argument for selling out for a potential dynasty team now - while we still have Hill and Kelce in their primes. Sign Jones, maybe give Watkins a 2-3 year deal where he gets more guaranteed money but less than $21M a year obviously. Backload Mahomes' contract so the first few years are easy on the cap.

Then about the time Kelce and Hill are slowing down - might have a few years of cleaning house/rebuilding.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I can definitely see an argument for selling out for a potential dynasty team now - while we still have Hill and Kelce in their primes. Sign Jones, maybe give Watkins a 2-3 year deal where he gets more guaranteed money but less than $21M a year obviously. Backload Mahomes' contract so the first few years are easy on the cap.

Then about the time Kelce and Hill are slowing down - might have a few years of cleaning house/rebuilding.

Yep. Deal is Mahomes is young enough to be around for several rebuilds.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I can definitely see an argument for selling out for a potential dynasty team now - while we still have Hill and Kelce in their primes. Sign Jones, maybe give Watkins a 2-3 year deal where he gets more guaranteed money but less than $21M a year obviously. Backload Mahomes' contract so the first few years are easy on the cap.

Then about the time Kelce and Hill are slowing down - might have a few years of cleaning house/rebuilding.

watkins doesnt make 21 million next year.

he makes 14, we've already paid him 7 in his signing bonus...

[MightyMouse]

Sammy has been dealing with some mental stuff for awhile. Seems like playing for Reid helped him a lot. I don’t think he will be a Chief next year unless he feels being with Reid is worth a huge pay cut. Hopefully he finds happiness in whatever he does