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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-18-2012, 03:55 PM   #691
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He had a pedestrian rookie season, an excellent 2nd year, and wasn't as good last year when TB's D collapsed.

All things considered, this is the year he needs to prove himself, and he's set up to do that now that he has better talent around him.
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What are you facepalming about? Freeman basically has one year where you can say "well, that sucked," and he was playing with the worst D in football.

Most third-year QBs would struggle in that situation. He still completed 63% of his passes for 3,600 yards.
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Just saying I thought he was on his way to being elite. Crap! I shouldn't have used that word.
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Just saying I thought he was on his way to being elite. Crap! I shouldn't have used that word.
If he plays well this year, a lot of people will put him in that 2nd tier of QBs right behind Eli, Brady, Rivers, Rodgers and Roethlisberger.
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Old 07-18-2012, 03:59 PM   #695
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I really wish we'd have drafted Freeman. Oh well.
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:00 PM   #696
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What are you facepalming about? Freeman basically has one year where you can say "well, that sucked," and he was playing with the worst D in football.

Most third-year QBs would struggle in that situation. He still completed 63% of his passes for 3,600 yards.



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I really wish we'd have drafted Freeman. Oh well.
Freeman? Why? Have you no idea what Cassel can bring to the table with his leadership an cheerleading skills?
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Freeman? Why? Have you no idea what Cassel can bring to the table with his leadership an cheerleading skills?
You're right! This is gonna be a great year!
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People keep placing Roddy White and Andre Johnson ahead of Bowe, and I am just not sure that's true.

When you look at the numbers that have been posted, Bowe appears to be in the same class.

If Bowe was catching passes from from Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers, he might be viewed as top 3 in the NFL.
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You're right! This is gonna be a great year!
I actually think it will be a good year despite the QB shit-uation. The season will be like a pretty good movie with a shit ending that leaves you wondering why you even bothered watching. It'll be like the Blair Witch.
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Well, personally, I STILL wouldn't say Bowe is as good as Fitz, Megatron or Andre J. Those guys are elite deep threats, Bowe is not.

He's definitely as good as Roddy White. Probably better, since he's just as fast and easily bigger and stronger.

One thing people aren't talking about, though, is that Andre Johnson is hurt all the time. Bowe is never hurt.
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Well, personally, I STILL wouldn't say Bowe is as good as Fitz, Megatron or Andre J. Those guys are elite deep threats, Bowe is not.

He's definitely as good as Roddy White. Probably better, since he's just as fast and easily bigger and stronger.

One thing people aren't talking about, though, is that Andre Johnson is hurt all the time. Bowe is never hurt.
Yep. With White, I'd really like to say Bowe is better but damn, White has the numbers. And I don't think Ryan is that great.
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Looks like jd1020 and chiefsfootballfan are moving in on arturis' turf as the punching bag of this thread.
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