How long do you plan on wearing a mask in public?

[TLO]

Poll incoming. Please try to keep it non political so it doesn't get moved to DC.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by TLO

No, it's absolutely not wrong. Which is why there is a plethora of information about mRNA to inform those that may question. If you still don't feel comfortable after reading that material, that's ok.

Agreed, the data is out there. I read it and got my first shot a couple weeks ago. I want herd immunity but I’m not going to crucify people who are scared or skeptical/high horse

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BWillie

That is what I'm afraid of.

Did you throw a fit when you had to get the measles vaccine or vaccinated before going to public school? Why is this just now a thing?

It's just ignorant to not get vaccinated if you are like under 80, I'm sorry.

Vaccines are one of the greatest inventions of our civilization to keep people healthy.

The measles vaccine was released publicly in 1963. I first received it in 1979.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with people being skeptical of something new and relatively untested in the wild.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

What specific "side effects" to mRNA are even theoretically possible that cause worry?

I don’t know. Longitudinal data is not yet available. From what I can see it’s a technology with amazing promise and history will look back at the rapid development and deployment as a major achievement. But it’s still early.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Well, hopefully in the end, enough people get it in order to lift the mask mandates and restrictions.

It's sadly ironic that some of the loudest people against the things they don't have control over aren't ensuring the actions they do have control over are going towards the common goal of normalcy.

And on the flip side, the "sheep" they've been complaining at for all these months are now the ones who will get vaccinated and get everything back to normal.

But anyway, I do think once everyone who wants it has the opportunity to get it, we should open up everything and hope for the best... I think the "zero deaths" benchmark is a bit much. If the number of people who could have serious complications from Covid is reduced by the x% of the population, there really shouldn't be any concern for healthcare to get overrun again.

It was already pointed out by the fine doctor that this will never end. Vaccines every few years (which ironically doesn't have to be repeated by other vaccines). Wear your masks until the vaccines are distributed. Wait? It's better anyway you should wear a mask? Then obviously we should make it mandatory all the time!

Just because you believe in it so passionately doesn't mean it's right. And doesn't mean you, or the government should have the right to tell everyone what to do. That includes masks, vaccines, and what other bullshit they come up with along the way. (see also: double masking)

We get it. A bunch of you in here get off telling people what to do. That was the intention of the thread in the first place. You don't wear a mask now? SHAME ON YOU! It just delved into vaccines as well, and even more than that. Those types need threads like this one every once in a while to make them feel better about themselves. Congrats. Hope they feel better at night.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Maybe I'm wrong. Time will tell. But I've seen news stories in this area about Covid vaccines not being used. People in rural areas just don't want it.

I think there's a lot of peer pressure in some parts of our society for people to say they don't want it, but in the end most people are smart enough to do what's in their personal best interest. I've got rural relatives who howl about this stuff, but when they got the call they went and got their shot.

[F150]

I do where its required. But I no longer really go to places that have a mandate. We have found places in non city counties to eat and shop. And don't care if the cities ever gt another sales tax dollar from me.

[bdj23]

I rarely wear one anyway, and I only started because it was required to go to a restaurant, bar, grocery store ect.

Once these mandates are lifted, they're all going in the fire pit.

[F150]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Maybe I'm wrong. Time will tell. But I've seen news stories in this area about Covid vaccines not being used. People in rural areas just don't want it.

Missouri counties are doing great getting shots to people and higher numbers than were expected. I have a friend in Butler Mo and she said the Health folks and Hospital are thrilled at the numbers....Clinton was really ding well a few weeks ago


id almost wager rural areas do high% vaccinations than the cities do

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I think there's a lot of peer pressure in some parts of our society for people to say they don't want it, but in the end most people are smart enough to do what's in their personal best interest. I've got rural relatives who howl about this stuff, but when they got the call they went and got their shot.

There's plenty of peer pressure on both sides. Say there's peer pressure on people that don't want it, as if that's the only side experiencing it, is a bit disingenuous. Just look at this thread.

That being said, I know plenty of rural people here that got it after saying they didn't want it. Why? Not because of peer pressure but because of fear of dying.

[JakeF]

A combination of

Until any restrictions in my area are lifted

and

I personally feel it's safe not to



I'll keep track of the covid cases. When it really starts dying off i will lose the mask.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

There's plenty of peer pressure on both sides. Say there's peer pressure on people that don't want it, as if that's the only side experiencing it, is a bit disingenuous. Just look at this thread.

That being said, I know plenty of rural people here that got it after saying they didn't want it. Why? Not because of peer pressure but because of fear of dying.

Agreed. I just think that when the syringe appears, many or most of the vocal anti-vaccination people are likely to get it, while vocal pro-vaccination people are also likely to get it. I don't think there are a lot of people making pro-vaccine statements out of peer pressure who are going to decline the vaccine due to secret concerns.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I think there's a lot of peer pressure in some parts of our society for people to say they don't want it, but in the end most people are smart enough to do what's in their personal best interest. I've got rural relatives who howl about this stuff, but when they got the call they went and got their shot.

Peer pressure won't play into my thinking on getting the vaccine. I'm 54, and I'm in the last group to receive the vaccine. Science will be my only guideline.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Masks were not part of our society until April 2020 as evidenced by the fact that many cities/states have long standing ANTI-mask laws on their books.

Some people like yourself may consider that dramatic change to be "minor", but most people understand the importance of getting our way of life back to pre-pandemic normal as soon as possible.

Mask usage was actually quite high during the Spanish Flu, actually. Required, too.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Which means she is also susceptible to complications from the flu, pneumonia, the common cold... pretty much any type of respiratory virus/infection.

Did you wear masks around her before COVID-19, during flu season?

COVID-19 isn't the flu. And March 2020 says "Hi!!"

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Agreed. I just think that when the syringe appears, many or most of the vocal anti-vaccination people are likely to get it, while vocal pro-vaccination people are also likely to get it. I don't think there are a lot of people making pro-vaccine statements out of peer pressure who are going to decline the vaccine due to secret concerns.

IMO, the only thing that could, at this point, change a pro-vaccine person's mind is a systemic failure of some sort - a recall related to deadly side effects, evidence of mass corruption or fraud, something of that seismic sort.

On the other hand, I see many people that aren't necessarily anti-vaccine but anti-COVID vaccine (an actual important distinction) getting vaccinated for two reasons.

1. Repeated insistence and even ultimatums from pro-vaccine friends and family or more commonly

2. They've finally allowed baser instincts to kick in and gotten the shot out of a sense of self-preservation.

When it comes down to it, people don't want to die and the longer this goes on, the more people die. It's just statistics but the more deaths that happen, the greater the chance you know somebody that died of it.

As soon as it starts hitting "close to home" people start going to get the shots because they simply don't want it to be them.